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Author Topic: Heavy Modern Vases with Prunts : Murano ? Czech ? ID prob Koudelka for Prachen  (Read 4683 times)

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Offline paradisetrader

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Heavy Modern Vases with Prunts : Murano ? Czech ?
« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2006, 06:11:31 PM »
Thanks Ivo
Swedish ! Hmm anyone particular in mind so that we can google and compare ?

We have discussed Scandi with prunts here before and had trouble finding examples. Max came up with this item with very simple prunts by Severin Brorby, Hadeland
http://www.utopiaretromodern.com/vetro3.htm
now much similarity there ..

Thanks Anne
That green looks Czech to me but I might just be seeing Czech wherever I look ....possible as the madness progresses ......erg ...gurgle
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Heavy Modern Vases with Prunts : Murano ? Czech ?
« Reply #11 on: April 25, 2006, 06:16:14 AM »
Peter,

Sorry, database is bare.

Generally I tend to associate prunts with Germany/black forest in my mind, can't put my finger on it why though.

Did spot this when googling - last item on page.
http://www.garykirsnerauctions.com/auct2201/22019.htm

this colour scheme is clearly used a lot.

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« Reply #12 on: April 25, 2006, 07:11:20 AM »
Prunts have been used by many glasmakers and I do not think they are specific for any region. Venetian glass uses lots of prunts, mostly small ones. Bohemian and German forest glass uses somewhat larger ones. But in all  older products these have a function. Prunts were used to stop greasy glasses from slipping through your fingers when passing them on during banquets - because the one guest one glass custom is relatively new.  Companies like Josephinenhütte Teresienthal, Fritz Heckert and Köln Ehrenfeld all made traditional tableware with prunts "in the German tradition".
The really smack-on blobs in contrasting colours as a designer statement seem to be something from the 1970ies. I have seen those on Russian and Polish glass, Bang used them in the 30ies and so did Copier, they have been used in Italy and in Norway and Czechoslovakia. But Sweden and Belgium should not be ruled out either. In short, we're not getting anywhere with the item @ hand.

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Heavy Modern Vases with Prunts : Murano ? Czech ?
« Reply #13 on: April 27, 2006, 08:40:13 PM »
http://koti.mbnet.fi/jost/roudella.htm
Prunts - Just for interest, one from Riihimaen Lasi Oy, Finland.
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« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2006, 10:05:26 PM »
Quote from: "Anne E.B."
http://koti.mbnet.fi/jost/roudella.htm
Prunts - Just for interest, one from Riihimaen Lasi Oy, Finland.


I'm not sure they're really prunts Anne, because they're not applied, they're molded.  :?  Anyway,  :D  thanks for reminding me of that piece of glass...I think someone on the board owns a similar piece...Della perhaps?
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Heavy Modern Vases with Prunts : Murano ? Czech ?
« Reply #15 on: April 28, 2006, 06:18:31 AM »
Sorry, I don't have that piece.......wish I did. :wink:
I have quite a few Riihimaen pieces now, 3 in the same colour as the vase originally posted, but not one with prunts.
If I know, I'll comment. If I think I know, I'll have a go. If I have no idea, I'll just keep quiet and learn from others, so the next time I'll know.

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« Reply #16 on: April 28, 2006, 08:31:49 AM »
Thanks Max. I've just checked my vase again and I guess the 'prunts' on mine are molded also and not applied.  They are all identical size/shape. :P
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Re: Heavy Modern Vases with Prunts : Murano ? Czech ?
« Reply #17 on: August 16, 2009, 12:38:43 PM »
Have just been searching old posts re prunts, I appreciate this is an old thead and everyone probably now knows that this is probably a Josef hospodka design. See Mark Hill's book Hi Sklo Lo Sklo (I do not have a copy so cannot give a page no.).

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Re: Heavy Modern Vases with Prunts : Murano ? Czech ?
« Reply #19 on: September 05, 2009, 03:52:23 PM »
Looks like Czechoslovakian piece designed by Frantisek Koudelka for Prachen glassworks in 60ties.
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