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Blue and white overlay vase - vine and grapes decoration - enamel?
flying free:
Only one of my links that I put in the earlier post on this thread remains
so I'm adding it and an image url again just in case. It's the becher from the Ludwig collection.
http://www.auctions-fischer.de/typo3temp/pics/7428-19_14913d8b1d.jpg
http://www.auctions-fischer.de/catalogues/online-catalogues/210-european-glass-studio-glass.html?L=1&kategorie=102&artikel=26481&L=1&cHash=0e79a907d3
Auction 210 Dr Fischers - lot number 257
'257 - BECHER MIT DOPPELÜBERFANG NORDBÖHMEN, UM 1860 FARBLOSES, ERST WEISS, DANN BLAU...
Farbloses, erst weiß, dann blau überfangenes Glas, in Schichtgravur dekoriert mit Weinranken und Trauben. Oberhalb des Standes Kugelschliff-Bordüre. H. 14 cm Ehemals Sammlung Ludwig, Regensburg.
Nordböhmen, um 1860'
I also found this interesting tumble up night flask. CAtalogue 219, lot 208
It's three layer blue over white over clear and is the opposite to cameo in that the design has been cut through the layers to show the white and clear and no cameo work on the blue. But the interesting part is that it is a sort of 'pre-cursor' to my flask - the design is vines and grapes. The leaves have been created by cutting away the blue layer and leaving the leaves in white (gilded and silvered enamel) and then the grapes created by cutting 'bunches' of lenses through the blue, leaving a white surround and leaving clear glass in the middle. It is actually dated on the piece "Palmsonntag 1849"
http://www.auctions-fischer.de/typo3temp/pics/8059-5_8e982cd6b3.jpg
http://www.auctions-fischer.de/catalogues/online-catalogues/219-european-glass-and-studio-glass.html?L=1&kategorie=102&artikel=36564&L=1&cHash=413081b5b6
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flying free:
I'm up to 2000 bechers searched (and the rest ::) but I'm only counting Dr Fischer archives which I'm now up to date on) and 220 flakons and flasches etc and nothing, except that one becher.
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flying free:
The picture has a James D Julia watermark -it's of a white over pink version of the grapes and vines in vase form.
On the Prices4antiques site the listing apparently said
'Webb Glass; Cameo, Vase, Branches with Leaves & Grapes, Pink & White, 18 inch.'
The description of the vase is that it is 'monumental'
'Webb Glass; Cameo, Vase, Branches with Leaves & Grapes, Pink & White, 18 inch.
A Webb Cameo [glass] vase, carved pink and white over clear cameo pattern of grapes, leaves and branches decorate this monumental size vase. Signed on... [more detail available via subscription]
p4A Item E8959152
Category: glass Origin: England
Type: webb Year: 1875 - 1910'
The cameo decoration has a very close similarity to that on my vase.
I don't think I agree with the description identification. And it may have been sold with that identification because of the bowl discussed at this point on the thread which appears to have a spurious Webb mark:
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,51272.msg307118.html#msg307118
Sorry about the source references but I haven't been able to get the original James D. Julia listing up so unfortunately have no idea how long ago it was sold.
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http://www.prices4antiques.com/Webb-Glass-Cameo-Vase-Branches-with-Leaves-Grapes-Pink-White-18-inch-E8959152.html
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/e6/f2/ef/e6f2efbe5c0cd8916b4da9d1ff54b187.jpg
flying free:
In my reply #11 on this thread I talked about the paucity of information about Bohemian cameo glass produced in the mid 19th century-
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,51272.msg292956.html#msg292956
I have just come across a book called 'Colonial homes and their furnishings' by Mary Northend. It was written in 1917.
In that book the following:
'At the commencement of the seventeenth century, some of the Bohemian manufacturers were producing vases of various shapes enriched with engraved ornaments, representing scenes, and frequently portraits. Some of the former type are shown in the wonderful collection owned by Mr. W. J. Mitchell at Manchester, Massachusetts. With the pronounced popularity of the Bohemian engraved vases, artists in other countries began decorating their ware in like fashion, those of France employing interlaced flowers. These were etched on, rather than engraved, however, and cheapened the ware; in other countries the results obtained were no better, all failing to compare with the Bohemian specimens, for the art of engraving here had been learned from long experience by workmen who were experts in their line.
Many Bohemian pieces showed an original decoration in the way of ornamentations in relief on the outside, while the art of cameo incrustation was also first used by Bohemian workers, who sometimes varied it to obtain odd and pleasing effects by engraving through an outer casing of colored glass into an interior of white, transparent, or enameled glass. One such specimen, a salt cellar, is shown in the Mitchell collection.'
So Bohemian cameo glass was acknowledged clearly in this book, and is clearly denoted as cameo glass, and the description of the process is clearly that of the cameo process.
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KevinH:
m,
Are the two quoted paragraphs consecutive entries in the book? It just seems misleading that it starts with "... commencement of the seventeenth century ..." and then flows into the second paragraph talking about cameo work [which I thought was first revived in the 19th C.]
And another possible confusion is the use of the term "cameo incrustation" ... which was a British term for "Sulphide" [Apsley Pellatt, etc.].
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