Topic: Lily of the Valley-unidentified so far

[flying free]

Having gone online there are quite a few Val St Lambert weights with twisted cane surrounds so I'm guessing you already have
I did find this one
http://www.paperweight-mall.com/vsl8.html
but I'm sure you've already seen this
m

[tropdevin]

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Hi.

I think the VSL twisted torsades (a typical feature of their paperweights) are very different in structure from the twisted stems and other elements of the Lily of the Valley weights.  They are, as you note, more rustic than Clichy or Saint-Louis vase rims - but the paperweights themselves are rather more rustic too. That is part of the charm of them for me - I have about a dozen of them.

There is a well illustrated article on Val St Lambert in the August 2012 PCC Newsletter.

Alan

[flying free]

I had a good look at the Val St Lambert weights on line last night - they're lovely.  I can see the attraction in the variety and complexity of their designs
m

[flying free]

on page 74 of Paperweights (Jargstorf) there is a weight with a white and red circle (no.3 in picture).  I don't know if it's the same as the red and white twisted decoration on the lily of the valley weight but might be worth looking at if you haven't already seen it.
m

[w8happiness]

Hi,

haven't seen it yet,

 thanks a lot I'll check it!!!

kind regards,

[w8happiness]

on page 74 of Paperweights (Jargstorf) there is a weight with a white and red circle (no.3 in picture).  I don't know if it's the same as the red and white twisted decoration on the lily of the valley weight but might be worth looking at if you haven't already seen it.
m

... a colleague looked it up in the Jargstorf book "Paperweights" (1991),
as I do not have it yet...
but he said there is no picture but the page 74 is about Riesengebirge weights-
 so is 74 the right page number? Can you please check?
or is it a different Jargstorf book? 

- would you be so kind and show a scan or photo of the page? Thanks a lot, e.

[flying free]

weight no 3 page 74 is a Bohemian weight with millefiori - but it also has a red and white twisted ring circling the millefiori (I don't know what you paperweight people call it... is it a torsade maybe?) - it was the red and white ring I was referring to to be able to compare to the red and white twist on your weight
m

[KevinH]

m - yes, "torsade" is the correct term - as per the standard meaning of the word.

As for the similarity (or not!) of the twisted threads in the weight in Jargstorf and Erhard's item ...

In the Jargstorf book, the twist is formed from a flattened lenth of thread with one side solid white and the other side solid red. When twisted it has a shape the same as when a thin strip of paper is twisted.

In Erhard's weight the twist is formed with a translucent red rod with a thin white thread applied down one part of the length. When twisted, the white thread can be seen through the red and the whole length is smooth sided.

These are different techniques resulting in a different type of twist.

[flying free]

Thanks Kev
I can see now it is formed differently.
m

[flying free]

Erhard, I have sent you a message via the GMB regarding another piece.
Kind regards
m