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Author Topic: Is my hand blow pitcher a Whitefriars please?  (Read 2933 times)

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Offline chriss

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Is my hand blow pitcher a Whitefriars please?
« on: April 03, 2013, 09:03:03 PM »
Hi I have a hand blown glass pitcher with a ground and polished pontil mark and an applied handle. There is a 'pulled' ripple or wave detail to the walls of the pitcher and the colour is cinnamon I think as it's a pale brown with a hint of pink almost to it. I was hoping that someone can say if this is Whitefriars please and if not, does anyone know any other info about it please?
I've tried looking on the Whitefriars.com website but can't find any waved pitchers and due to a site issue, cannot upload anything onto the isit section. I have found a previous thread started by David E about the difference between Webb and Whitefriars wave ribbed glass (if that's what mine is?) http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,3617.msg28074.html#msg28074
mine has 6 waves around it, but I may be jumping the gun as I haven't determined it's WF yet :D
Any info gratefully received please :))

Thanks

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Re: Is my hand blow pitcher a Whitefriars please?
« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2013, 09:20:05 PM »
Sorry a definite no possibly Webb or Stuart .

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Re: Is my hand blow pitcher a Whitefriars please?
« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2013, 12:31:26 PM »
almost certainaly Webb's 'Ribbonette' pattern  -  I'll look for a link showing the distinctive swags.          Always a good idea to give the height which, assuming this is Webb's, should be c. 6" (153mm).         Webb's pieces are not always marked, unfortunately.

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Re: Is my hand blow pitcher a Whitefriars please?
« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2013, 01:05:08 PM »
In the two attached pix, the first shows a jug, in clear, similar to yours - together with tumbler and wine - the other shows the style of backstamp that would probably have been on your jug had it been marked.
The factory pattern No. for 'Ribbonette' is 33130 which was apparently introduced in 1910 - and according to Charles Hajdamach was still showing in catalogues in 1927 - 28.      Of course, it may have continued for even longer, but I've no way of knowing.    Should you have a spare decather stopper for this pattern please do let me know. ;)

this link shows the six pointed slightly swag style of pattern that might be confused with W/Fs or other patterns made by Webb.
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51074.0;attach=121519

Mod: Link corrected http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,51074.0.html

Ref.  '20th Century British Glass'  -  Charles R. Hajdamach  -  2009.

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Re: Is my hand blow pitcher a Whitefriars please?
« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2013, 01:09:24 PM »
Your link isn't working  ???

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Re: Is my hand blow pitcher a Whitefriars please?
« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2013, 01:37:13 PM »
tis working for me Christine ??         will someone else please try for me, thanks :)

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Re: Is my hand blow pitcher a Whitefriars please?
« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2013, 02:14:39 PM »
I'm satisfied that the brown jug at the beginning of this thread is Webb's 'Ribbonette' - as are all the other images shown so far in this thread.
Perhaps wrong of me to use the word 'swag' in reference to 'Ribbonette'..........  probably better to leave that description to other factories/designs, and not to use it for this particular type of six pointed pulled design.

thanks for confirming my link is working :)   

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Re: Is my hand blow pitcher a Whitefriars please?
« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2013, 05:57:02 PM »
Thankyou everyone for all your help and great information :))
Yes Paul S it is 6" tall :) But sadly, I've only got this pitcher in this pattern, no decanter lid, but I will keep a look out in the shop I purchased it from and let you know if I find one :))

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Re: Is my hand blow pitcher a Whitefriars please?
« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2013, 07:08:36 PM »
The link creates a download not a direct link

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