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Author Topic: Aventurine and green vase, black ground  (Read 1261 times)

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Aventurine and green vase, black ground
« on: May 17, 2013, 04:35:07 PM »
Not the first time for this combination on the board but here is another example.

Black (amethyst) glass with green and masses of aventurine, moulded base, fire polished rim and fairly thin walled so does not feel heavy for the size, 17.5cm tall.

Dirk's previous: http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,28652.0.html

The aventurine looks more Murano than Chinese to me. Any more ideas?

John

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Re: Aventurine and green vase, black ground
« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2013, 02:01:35 PM »
I could be wrong but I don't think this is Nason.
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Re: Aventurine and green vase, black ground
« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2013, 02:28:19 PM »
I don't think it came from TKMaxx.  ;) ;D
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Re: Aventurine and green vase, black ground
« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2013, 02:42:31 PM »
http://www.etsy.com/listing/122495467/vintage-murano-glass-aventurine-ashtray
this is what all the coloured Nason avventurine I've seen looks like. 
The reasons I don't think these vases are Nason are:
- the colour for the Nason pieces is usually also in splotches.
- All the pieces I've owned have had a cut and polished rim including a good few that were just black with aventurine.
I've added some more pics below for comparison
But as I said, I could be wrong.  I've seen a lot of this glass but some were not very close up so it's difficult to be absolutely sure I guess.
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Re: Aventurine and green vase, black ground
« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2013, 07:18:42 PM »
I don't think this is Nason

No, me neither, there are a few elements that push me that way. For one the shape of this vase is very traditional, in much the same way Dirk's is too. The Nason pieces are angular with a distinctly modern (as in 20th century) feel. The aventurine looks different too, the Nason aventurine appears consistent while this vase looks to have aventurine with three variations in colour.

This varied aventurine reminded me of the aventurine in this paperweight (dated 1980) also varied in tone.

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Re: Aventurine and green vase, black ground
« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2013, 08:29:29 PM »
Nason did also make some fairly traditional pieces in Avventurine and they aren't my favourites I have to say -
my red vase above is one
and these below are others - there is a difference in the way they feel as well as their shapes, compared to the heavy angular deco style pieces.  The deco pieces are very heavy thick glass which is why I suppose they are liable to chips, they get dropped easily and are fragile because of the seams and corner/edges.
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Re: Aventurine and green vase, black ground
« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2013, 07:13:14 PM »
Adding for reference - an interesting label on this listing
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/171041823178?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
An aventurine vase on black in a similar shape to the ones I posted above but much much bigger 8.5" tall and the label on it is round with gold writing on black it look like
around the top it read CREAZIONE 'SUSY'
centered in the middle down the label it then says
'TIPO
MURANO
MADE in ITALY'
Looks like at least two fonts used and differing sizes.
The aventurine it nothing like that on my vases above.

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Re: Aventurine and green vase, black ground
« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2013, 11:04:44 AM »
Probably totally off the wall and I really can't say why - but it instantly reminded me of this piece of mine. Which is by Franco Toffolo for Caithness. So Murano techniques made in Scotland.

Hope that's not just adding confusion!

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Re: Aventurine and green vase, black ground
« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2013, 11:44:42 AM »
I'm well aware of the work Franco Toffolo has done during his (earlier years of) retirement in Scotland - he worked at John Deacon's studio on Thursdays, producing lots of fun stuff, much of it loosely based on Ysart designs - hence the swirls in the aventurine on the surface of your piece, Jakgene.

Toffolo's work from this period is thick and heavy - John says his piece is thin-walled and light for its overall appearance - and John's isn't Toffolo!
No confusion. ;D
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Re: Aventurine and green vase, black ground
« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2013, 12:15:19 PM »
Thank you ladies, the more examples the better - it is all educational for me. :)

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