Topic: Dealer errors on Dickinson's Real Deal

[Tony G]

Hi,
      disappointed to listen to a load of rubbish from a dealer on Dickinson's Real Deal today ( This is a programme where the public bring antiques and collectibles for offers from dealers or take them to auction).

According to a dealer who lives near Elgin in Scotland. Monart and Vasart Glass is associated with "two Italian brothers who had links with Murano" (sic).

Quite sad really.

[chopin-liszt]

 

Perhaps somebody misheard somebody talking about Mdina, where father and son, the Boffos, who had trained in Murano and worked at wfs before going to work at Mdina?

 - and then just got a bit inventive with misheard rumours.

[flying free]

very cross making 
I have more than once seen other programs refer to a piece of Chinese glass as Murano and various other bloopers.

Glass (antique, vintage and contemporary studio) needs some more good PR, as well as Andy McConnell and Mark Hill who do a brilliant job, and I know, the other glass specialists who have also written articles for various publications.
m

[keith]

There was one a while ago,in Kidderminster, someone had a piece of 'slag'/'marble' pressed glass and a certain presenter said "we are near Stourbridge so that's probably where it's from" 

[user9318]

I remember one episode of Dickinsons Real Deal where someone had brought in five pieces of Whitefriars glass, I looked at the TV and two of them were Ravenshead bark vases, the dealer did not even know they were not Whitefriars and paid a hell of a lot of money for all five. Dealer did not have a clue, seller had a good pay day.

[neil53]

And long may their ignorance continue.  The day that auctioneers and general antique dealers get clued up on glass is the day that bargains disappear.  Personally I am very happy that they remain in their state of bliss. 

[flying free]

I can understand that point of view as a collector.
However, for the glass market to be successful, glass needs to take it's rightful place amongst some of the most beautiful artifacts in the world from other mediums.  Obviously not all glass, but there are some pieces that are truly masterful from amongst antique, vintage and contemporary glass, from all over the world.    These pieces need to be recognised and properly identified and their complicated/rare/newly developed techniques discussed in the same way that paintings are discussed.

One day, when you need to sell your collection, your point of view might change

m
 

[chopin-liszt]

Glass is alreday incredibly undervalued in the art world.
Folk will happily pay £200-300 perhaps even £500 odds for a painting they happen to like, not even by a known artist.

But £500 will get you something by one of the great glass artists.

[oldglassman]

Hi ,
            Depends on what you regard as a great glass artist ,for what I like £500 gets you nothing!!.

cheers ,
             Peter.

[chopin-liszt]

We all have to live within our means Peter; I cannot begin to look at your area of taste except for in museums or at your stand where you very kindly let me handle your treasures.

£500 bought me my "National Treasure", my Sam Herman 1967 piece from the RCA; £400 bought me a Louis Le Loup "Encrustation Noir". £500 bought me my Graham Muir "Wave Form". (although they all sell for over £1,000 now). I paid a ridiculously low £485 for my Alison Kinnaird storm lantern.

But those are all exceptionally expensive bits for me.