Topic: Deceptive glass or penny lick? help please.

[brucebanner]

Hello there i'm not sure what this glass is for or how old it is, the side walls are very thick, the pontil still feels rough but half melted, there a lot of wear to the base and a couple of white seeds within the glass. Any help welcome please regards Chris.

It's 3 7/8th's inches  in height, 2 1/4 inches across the base and 1 3/4 inches across the rim.

[Paul S.]

hello  -  My opinion would be that ...............          the shape of the bowl, its capacity, and the overall look of the piece would preclude this being a 'lick'.             Genuine 'ice' glasses had internal bowl capacities that were small/shallow and not at all like that of a drinking glass  -  in fact the ice seems to have occupied only about a quarter or third of the entire depth of the bowl, and usually with a very flatish bottom.

It's possible this is a deceptive glass, alternatively it might simply be a mid to late C19 pub/tavern glass for port or spirits  -  there were many smallish drinking glasses made which had a similar thickening of the lower part of the bowl as simply a result of the method of manufacture.             My opinion is that this isn't a deceptive, but I could be very wrong.            I'd like to see other people's opinions on this one.

[Paul S.]

quote................  "in fact the ice seems to have occupied only about a quarter or third of the entire depth of the bowl, and usually with a very flatish bottom."     
Looked at again, that doesn't really make sense, so just to make it clearer......

With these 'licks', the cavity is surprisingly small - it occupies no more than about a quarter or a third of the entire height of the bowl, and the cavity has a nearly flat or only slightly curved bottom, usually, although no doubt the 4d. or 6d. sorts had deeper cavities.

If you look at Robert's pix here  .....  http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,55257.msg314262.html#msg314262    ....  you can see how noticeable the shallowness of the cavity is, plus the extreme overall thickness of the glass and unusually thick and short stem.

[neil53]

Hi, just to illustrate Paul's point.  Here are pictures of a penny lick.

[Antwerp1954]

Following on from Neil's glass - a penny lick is all glass and no ice!