Topic: Heavy diamond (crisscross) cut crystal vase

[cubby01]

Hi all,

A little help if you can.  This vase is just short of 9" tall, and 8" wide.  Weighs close to 6.5 lbs.   Most certainly hand cut.  There's enough wear on the base to say it's not real new but not enough to call it old.   

Initially I was fully expecting to find a makers mark somewhere on it but none to be found.  Although pretty some of the cuts are uneven enough I was wondering if it didn't meet standards and went out as a factory second.   Or maybe it's just originating from an area that that mass produces these.   I cound't find any examples of this shape/pattern on the web.  Any educated guesses on what part of the world it comes from? 

[antiquerose123]

Hi cubby01...

Do you think it might have had a stopper that went inside it?  Wondering if it is a Vase, or a decanter?

I can be in left field tho........LOL   

[cubby01]

Thanks Rose.  Not so far out in left field that I didn't think about that too.    The throat is 1-1/4" wide and zero signs of any glass on glass stopper.  It is an odd shape for a vase though isn't it.  I haven't tried putting flowers in it yet.

[Paul S.]

when looking for an id or description of use, it can help to know the country of origin  -  although appreciate that glass travels, and it's often impossible to be sure of this info.
I'd also wondered about the possibility of either a 'night cap set', which might originally have had a stopper of sorts that fitted inside the cup-shaped neck, meaning that this was a carafe, or part of a guest room set.    It's possible that any stopper may not have fitted, traditionally, into the neck opening.                   
Alternatively, possibly a 'flower centre', meaning a vase.             These are both descriptions that I've found in a book on States cut glass.
For the size of the body, the neck opening - if it is a vase - is unusually small.

I could be wrong, but the cutting appears to have been acid polished, and combined with the lack of wear, would mean quite modern  -  possibly post 1940/50.               
I wonder if, on balance, glass found in one country would have originated there more than 50/50 - or might that not be true.     Answers please, on a postcard to.................

As for expecting to find a makers mark, I'd suggest that from experience far more cut glass is seen without a backstamp, than pieces with a mark.

sorry this is not really helpful.

[Ohio]

If you are thinking U.S. origin 90+% of the time don't bother looking for a signature or acid mark as the vase majority of ABP will not be marked with the exception of Hawkes as they are one of just a few cutting houses that even bothered. Thats a fairly straight forward common cutting pattern thats still used today in imports so difficult to tell age.

[cubby01]

Thanks for the post OH,
Actually when I first saw it across the room I was hoping it might be Irish or Scottish.  Then I thought maybe late 20th C. Poland.  Lately I'm wondering if even a more recent Asian import.  I really never thought it was old enough for ABP.  I've always assumed it was an import into the US.   

[antiquerose123]

Happen to run across this link and thought this might be related to yours. See the *LINK HERE*    Make sure you click on the pic for large viewing and the EXTRA pics not shown



Let you take a look to see IF (??) it might be Stuart Crystal (Decanter) in Dorchester pattern, as only ran across this -- but the first thing I thought about was Your posting and how similar I thought it looked.  Says that was made 1950's onward but ??

Could still be in left field too.......LOL

 

[ahremck]

Unlikely to be a Stuart Dorchester as the decanter is a different shape and the diamond work stopped around 2/3 of the way up.

Ross

[cubby01]

Thank you both for the suggestion.  I hadn't looked at Stuart.

[chopin-liszt]

The thick rim isn't very suggestive of been good at pouring liquids...

I believe Leni used to refer to the guest room water thingies of a wide necked decanter with a tumbler upside down on top, rather than a stopper, as "tumble-ups".