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Author Topic: ID help, please. Schlevogt, Hoffman, Lalique or ..... ?  (Read 781 times)

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ID help, please. Schlevogt, Hoffman, Lalique or ..... ?
« on: June 17, 2014, 03:37:54 PM »
Acquired at an estate sale as a 'mis-match', this piece has me going in circles, especially since I have very limited knowledge of perfumes. 
 
The stopper has Lalique (no 'France') on it in script but looks to be a stopper that may have originally been produced by Czech glass maker Henry Schlevogt or Heinrich Hoffman.  Total 6 1/2 inches high (5 3/8 inch high figural) by 3 3/8 inches wide by 3/8 of an inch thick near the figural base.
 
The  bottle has no markings.
 
Can anyone shed any light on this for me?

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Re: ID help, please. Schlevogt, Hoffman, Lalique or ..... ?
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2014, 04:04:57 PM »
I believe yours is possibly one of many commercially imported bottles up until 1939 by U.S. importers such as,  Irving Rice, the Koscherak Bros. & Paul Straub Inc. as well as numerous smaller importers. These were imported by the thousands, made by numerous Czech firms & 98% of them are not Schlevogt, Hoffman, Lalique, etc.  Also during the period 1941 to 1945 several U.S. firms began producing reproductions of Czech bottles, Silverbrook Art Glass Co., Cavalier Glass Co., American Cut Crystal Corp.,  Block Mfg. & Edward Paul Co.. These bottles were largely manufactured using European craftsmen  already in the U.S. glass industries. Yours is of that type of commercial bottle.

Why Lalique appears I would not venture to say beyond the fact that Lalique did manufacture commercial bottles for other concerns which are considered separately from Laliques "own" bottles as far a value goes. It may be one of their commercial bottles or a Czech bottle embellished by a private party who added the signature.  In all likelyhood you will need to find someone very knowledgable who knows exactly what Lalique manufactured for other companies to find if its legit.  Sorry I cannot add more. 

   

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Re: ID help, please. Schlevogt, Hoffman, Lalique or ..... ?
« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2014, 04:18:10 PM »
Thank you, Ohio.

On the bright side, I suppose it is nice to know that it was liked well enough to copy, as well as being snapped up so that it is near impossible to find another for comparison. ::)

It was curious finding it with 'Lalique' on the stopper and nothing on the bottle - which looks like the one that Lalique used with the hummingbird stopper.  The stopper is pictured on a Czech glass reference site but no attribution to it, only the bottles - thus, where I got the Schlevogt/Hoffman connection.

I appreciate your time, consideration and willingness to share the information.

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Re: ID help, please. Schlevogt, Hoffman, Lalique or ..... ?
« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2014, 04:22:25 PM »
Somehow when my cell rang I guess I prematurely hit the post button so I went back & modified my response...maybe you will see it.

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Re: ID help, please. Schlevogt, Hoffman, Lalique or ..... ?
« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2014, 05:17:58 PM »
Hi Ohio,

Thanks for the addendum.

As they say, 'Aye, there's the rub', or some such thing.  I have found that quite often such information is not available, hasn't been compiled or not willingly shared (I used to get 'in trouble' at antique shows for being a dealer who shared 'too much' information).

However, thank you, once again.  I will continue to search and, should I run out of places to look, well, I will stick the piece on one of the shelves with the other "what the heck is it" pieces and enjoy it!

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Re: ID help, please. Schlevogt, Hoffman, Lalique or ..... ?
« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2014, 08:08:32 PM »
Well sometimes it pays to look really hard, got back from taking grandkids to pool & I found it in "Czechoslovakian Perfume & Bouduior Accessories" Revised Edition by Jacquelyne Y. Jones North, Kean Leach, Ruth Forsythe & Madeleine France, 1990 by Antique Publications. You can check your local library for a copy as its a popular reference.

1938 Irving Rice catalog page 101 in the book  item #20, 1938 retail $20.  Last of the Czech imports before WWII. Now the base is slightly different but thats meaninless as most of these pegs were interchangable with the bases. I will say though no mention that its Lalique...perfect match though & thats all I'll say but being relatively early prior to WWII  is a real good thing so you can absolutely, positively set the date at 1938.  Not bad at all.

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Re: ID help, please. Schlevogt, Hoffman, Lalique or ..... ?
« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2014, 09:31:27 PM »
Hi Ohio,

Thank you for the information!  I gave up trying to get all the reference material on the items that grab my interest quite awhile ago - just about the time I decided it would take another house to keep them all in.

I sincerely appreciate your help.  I will check out the library in the next day or two.  Hopefully I will be able to return the favor for you, or somebody else here, along the way.

Chris

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