Ahh,i see what you mean now Alan having just looked up the pp3's,it is about 4cm wd and3cm ht with a slight frosty look around the pontil and looking from below into the weight there is a frilly edge to the colour,exactly the same as the pp3 i've just looked up,also from the side the canes are quite flat as you look across them if that all makes sense,got to say it's a very smart little thing.