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Fake Australian Carnival
Cathy B:
Thanks for all your work here, Glen.
I'm either going crosseyed, mad, or possibly both.
Can you have a look at 270007135094 ? All looks totally perfect, except that I think that pattern only appears on masters and not nappy bowls (ref Ken Arnold and the CGA book). Do you think he's got the wrong photo, or the wrong dimension?
Cathy
Cathy B:
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250006587005
Definitely going mad, here, Glen. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Does this have a seam, or is it the photograph? And is it the fact that they've bumped up the contrast that has caused the irridescence to look like it came out of a spray can? I don't actually have a nappy, only a marigold master and it's buried away somewhere. On your nappy, does the bird have that outline?
Thanks for your help!
(In Australia, 'nappy' means 'diaper', but I've been reading it for so long I no longer do a double take).
Glen:
Hi Cathy - quick message for now.
The first one you show (270007135094) is odd. The seller says it is a nappy (small berry bowl) and the size shown in the 5 inch: 13cm diameter small bowl. But the photo shows the pattern as it appears on the master (large) bowl. The RD is the wrong way round for the berry bowl, and the leaves are wrong for the berry....but correct for the master!
Something weird there. That's the seller who has had some very vivid and good-looking masters.
The second one (from the UK) 250006587005 - looks alright. I think what looks a bit like an edge seam in the lower part is a trick of the light. It doesn't appear to be around the top two thirds of the piece. We've compared it with our berry and it's absolutely identical.
All I can say is.......if that's a fake then it's a darned good one. That's kind of worrying in itself. The other ones on eBay that we've seen so far are clearly faked. This one is identical to the real thing.
Nightmares bekon me...............
Glen
Cathy B:
Either that or I'm jumping at shadows, Glen, and I hope so. The first is the seller who's had some very nice looking masters - and has approx 1/2 of their wares are repros. ? ? Maybe he's just got the wrong picture, and/or dimensions.
Glen:
I know Cathy...I know. I've gone through all the same thoughts as you have. I've looked at the stuff that seller has and I've wondered....... But I can't see how those master Kingfishers differ from the true originals! If they are fakes....we got a problem! The small berries have so far been easy to spot. But if those masters are fake, then............
The fact is, I cannot see (on a photo) how they are different from the originals. If I could hold them in my hands then I would know for sure.
Thanks, Cathy, for directing me to those pieces.
Glen
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