Topic: Mystery (art nouveau?) vase, opaque teal with golden iridescent crackle pattern

[flying free]

see above post
and this is the Kralik orange crackle vase that the neck reminded me of!
I have cropped it so that you can compare it to your photo at the right size.  My photo is not at the same angle as yours and I couldn't find another one (now sold) I'm sorry.(edited - to say I did find a better angled picture but it's taken quite close up so not quite the same effect as yours)
I hope you don't mind but I copied your photo and posted it here so it could be easily comparable. If you wish me to remove it, just let me know.
m

[orangeglass]

I have seen a similar Tiffany shape , most of the similar crackle techniques have been Kralik, I found an American studio glass range with the crackles, but it isn't that, I'm still thinking it's newer made in the style of Kralik etc.
link to the S&W attribution ones (note - mint condition! and two of them)
http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/7749644

(someone's going to come along and say they are S&W now, aren't they  )

[glassobsessed]

Not adding much but all Kralik, a couple with dimples, three crackle.

Only including the (uranium glass) Humpen because it is such a superb shape,  Roman era glass can be found with this shape.

John

[rocco]

Thank you all (m, Roberta, Kimo, John, Ken) for your help, greatly appreciated!

This seems to be a real ID challenge

First, I am totally open for the idea that it is a new piece.
But I am still wondering for what kind of market such a small, dainty yet technically complex piece would have been produced; if just to mimic Art Nouveau, why not iridize the whole thing, and choose a less excentric colour?

I think I would never be able to tell if the wear on the base could be added deceitfully; to me it looks natural. It is found - in varying amount - on the areas where the vase sits on. If that hints on older production or not...

And thanks for all the links (and pics of beautiful glass).
Four-dimpled shapes seem to have been extremely popular in early 20th century Bohemian production -- found in so many Kralik and Lötz ranges.
But I couldn't find an exact shape match either.
Those S&W-attribution pieces seem to be much thicker glass.

Michael

[kimo]

I am hoping someone comes up with a positive ID on this as I think it is a very attractive object and would like to know.  I have an open mind about the age, but as I mentioned from what I can see I am on the recent or 1950s-1960s side of the thinking.

As for unusual colors and small pieces, there are and have been a large number of small artisans making very attractive glass.  In the US, for example, there are such glass artists at most every serious crafts show and they tend to be one to three person operations.  Many make very attractive and accomplished glass objects that are often small in size.  Iridized glass seems to be popular among these crafts people.  They do most of their selling at the weekend crafts shows or festivals where they set up and make glass for audiences of passers by, or who may sell at crafts stores in malls.

As just a single example, here are some vases made by such an crafts person at a nearby renaissance festival and where such things were for sale after the crafts person finished making them.

[Ohio]

Kimo we have a 6 week long renaissance festival here in Ohio near Waynesville...draws thousands of people during that time...its a pretty big annual deal held on a 30 acre site with all kinds of shows including jousting & I know they have glass blowers there in the English village area.

[rocco]

Thanks for your thoughts!

Though you both may be right that the vase is modern, my gut feeling would still say rather factory than studio glass.
I did a bit of searching (following the Bohemian path ), this time more for the teal colour than for the crackle issue, and found that quite a few makers apart from Kralik used an opaque teal colour, especially in the Tango glass era.
So at least the colour alone wouldn't rule out early 20th century production...
>> Lötz
>> Lötz
>> Harrach
>> Tango (don't know the maker)

Michael

[flying free]

I'm still keeping an open mind and could turn out to be wrong, but my guts are still saying old at the moment.
The shape is mold blown, typical for Bohemian glass with the pinched sides, the pontil mark is polished, and it's well made.
The layer of glass are complicated. 
I'm thinking maybe Loetz now as well as Kralik, but the shape of the neck and the colour and the dents are making me lean to Kralik at the moment.
Have you looked at all the Kraliks on the Kralik glass.com yet?
I think a shape match will be the best thing and the decor might be quite rare.
m

[flying free]

Ken, Kimo, I can see what  you are both saying though about it possibly being newer glass.  (Hedging my bets here   )

What puts me off the scent of studio glass is the shape and the base finish in combination. For example I can think of one studio glass maker here who does make a series of shapes that are quite symmetrical and complicated and possibly could well include something like this layering of colours and the finish.  But the base finish would not be a polished pontil mark like that and I'm not sure the shape would fit as it is quite typical of a period.
I can think of a studio maker who does produced crackle glass in opaque colours but the shape on this vase seems to be too structured and not organic enough to be that maker.
The other thing is that in more recent times, I think quite a lot of studio glass has been signed.

There just seems too much work gone into it somehow for it to be modern factory produced (household decorator ware) and I think the design is too 'classy' for it to be modern decorator ware.  They always seem to be either 'off' shapes or 'off'in terms of decor (too many effects, too many colours, too plain etc)
I also think it's more likely that the crackle has been produced by the cold water method or similar rather than in a mold. 

Anyway, I have high hopes that we might find the maker for this as some point
Let's see what it turns out to be
m

[Ohio]

M I agree in all likelyhood its an older blown piece quite possibly Kralik...just wish Craig would stop in as he could probably be of some assistance as its up his alley so to speak. Ken