Topic: Kosta Boda Kjell Engman? Valuation?

[glassobsessed]

You knew what it was, I must admit that I did not!

For many members of this forum English is not their native tongue. Typing a few lines of text and having it read by a bunch of strangers is a completely different situation to joking with people who already know you. It is so easy to get the wrong end of the stick or pick up on some minor point when we don't have the benefit of familiarity, let alone facial expression and body language. All that nuance is missing, clarity helps an awful lot when all you have is that few lines of text...

John

[kimo]

I thought that Sue's response came across as being very helpful for a new person on the forum, trying to help him understand how best to get a good response.  I also thought that Oliver's first response was more than a rude response to her kindness, it also came across as somewhat arrogant.   I was initially willing to accept Oliver's apology in his second post, but then he went on to add an arrogant comment that implies that those who take umbrage are either not as well educated as his friends or do not understand subtle humor.  This is not the case and if one comes to this forum and gets to know the people here with an open a friendly approach I can assure that such a person would soon learn that there is a range of people here who share a common interest in glass, including some who have very substantial academic achievements from the world's most prestigious universities.  Writing in plain English to express complicated ideas is often more difficult than bloviating which does not come across well on a forum where one's body language and tone of voice are absent making inadvertent miscommunication more likely. 

I am open to pressing a re-set button on my initial negative reaction to these posts if Oliver would like to do so.  A good place to start might be to follow the basic protocol of this forum by providing the photos directly into this thread as Sue suggested.

[chopin-liszt]

Academically speaking, Sue is a scientist. 
Philosophy is not something I take much interest in. It's just word games and semantics. It can be fun, but it hasn't really progressed very much in the last 3,000 years, has it?
I merely used one vague truism that philosophy has succeeded in articulating because it was relevant to the notion of expecting one's glass to hold it's value or price, or to take into account when reading newspaper articles or books that the information in them could well be wrong.
As it happened, I changed my quote before this even erupted. I found one on friday I thought would make a change. I can't even spell Neitshch in order to track the old one down again. I've never even heard of the other names dropped in the OPs post.

Many new folk do not bother reading the forum introduction and launch straight into posting, using links to show their images, as the OP here did.

Somebody here has to take on the onerous job with the loads of newbies, asking them politely to read the introduction and to post images directly.
Not everybody has the time or inclination to do it all when first responding. It does get very tedious.
I just took it upon myself to do it in this case.

[ahremck]

Oliver you need to be less precious about the responses you make.  How do you think I felt when I was told I had a pottery piece when I had been collecting glass for 30 years or so.  I got a little sarcastic I admit but after calming down posted more photos that showed it actually was glass.  Clever remarks are not what we use this board for.  I revel in having a community likely to help me - even years later.

Please respect these people for the experts they are - not the semantics they may occasionally use.  If you want to see an example of what is possible see near the top of the Glass section under the section for unattributed glass an entry under my GMB name(ahremck).  Another Australian expert has cleared up a mystery for me.  I respect his advice enormously because I know how carefully he researches things.

Ross