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lampwork dish id help?
« on: November 07, 2014, 03:18:50 PM »
hi guys
i bought this recently and i thought it may be early caithness or strathearn  but its a guess
it looks slightly unfinished a bit sloppy maybe a test piece any help would be great the size is just about 4.1/2 in square
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Re: lampwork dish id help?
« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2014, 03:44:40 PM »
I see what you mean Joe, maybe it will have a better chance of ID in Paperweights.
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Re: lampwork dish id help?
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2014, 04:06:40 PM »
I spotted it in a local collectables centre i nipped in to use the bathroom while on a delivery looked unusual so thought i can do without my bacon sandwich for one day ;D

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Re: lampwork dish id help?
« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2014, 04:19:59 PM »
Was it not a reasonably common practice at Strathearn that, if a pwt's dome had gone wonky during the making and it was possible to try to convert it into something else, such as a pin dish, and thus at least preserve the lampwork and canes and the time, effort and resources spent making those parts; that was done.
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Re: lampwork dish id help?
« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2014, 04:40:17 PM »
Paperweight bowls and dishes were made at various Scottish companies.
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Re: lampwork dish id help?
« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2014, 05:46:29 PM »
The circle of canes (for me) points to Caithness, 1985...1995 time range. A quick look didn't turn up the corresponding paperweight - but Zinnia (of 1987 - see attachment) shows why I feel it could be Caithness and the above time period. On the other hand - the lampwork is rather crude: could it be a practice piece, leaning towards a common style at the time?
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Re: lampwork dish id help?
« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2014, 04:04:51 PM »
Hi guys
been looking around the web and ive seen the cane shape in work by vasart and peter mcdougall so as kevin said could be any of the factories i did wonder if vasart made any lampwork items as only seen items with millefiori canes?
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Re: lampwork dish id help?
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2014, 04:44:41 PM »
As far as I know, Vasart (both the Ysart Bros and Vasart Ltd periods) did not make lampwork flower items such as seen in this bowl. And I have never yet seen an item like this by Paul Ysart.

The main candidates would be: Perthshire Paperweights, Caithness Glass, John Deacons and maybe Willie Manson or Selkirk but the garland canes do not seem right for those last two.
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Re: lampwork dish id help?
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2014, 04:53:01 PM »
Hi kevin
I didnt think that vasart/yasart bros didnt make lampwork items (always safe to ask!) My first thought was caithness and the piece posted by wuff makes a compelling case for it being caithness  :)
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Re: lampwork dish id help?
« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2014, 09:52:43 PM »
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Hi. It is worth remembering that Willie Manson (and other Scottish makers) have run a lot of 'learn to make paperweight' courses.  When I went on one, each of us came away with around 10 reasonably competently made paperweights - millefiori, lampwork, facets...whatever.  Some of these will reach (or maybe have reached) the market in time. So do not discount the possibility that what you have is the work of a keen but amateur maker!

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