Topic: Another beautiful unknown vase?

[Ohio]

This may give some small idea (sorry for the quality or lack there of) of the Murano coming into the U.S. as of 1963 from just the front of a catalog from the Koscherak Bros in NY. They had been importing Czech & Murano since prior to WWII into the U.S. You may wish to take note of the colorations & deep heavy satin finishes on the handles which is characteristic of the Murano art glass repros of MOP/AT & Mt. Washington coming into the U.S.

[Paul S.]

thanks for that  -  see what you mean, and very depressing.       I guess you'd need to handle a lot of pieces from both centuries to get an idea of which is which.      Quality of image is good, thanks.

We seem to have lost the op

[flying free]

ooh Ohio, thanks so much for sharing that!
  It resolves quite a few questions I've had and fascinating to see the pictures.
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[flying free]

just a couple of notes on this thread:

- None of the examples in Ken's advertisement appear to have 'thorns' on the handles and the op's does

- this is a link showing a Kralik lampshade that is in the Museum of Sumava mountains in Kašperských
http://www.odbornecasopisy.cz/osvetlovaci-sklo-34981.html

It says of this particular piece:
'Obr. 4. Kryt elektrického svítidla z nabíhaného atlasového skla s lipnovanými okraji, firma Wilhelm Kralik Sohn, Lenora, konec 80. let 19. století (ze sbírek Muzea Šumavy v Kašperských horách, foto: Marek Vaneš)'

It is a pink satin glass lampshade with a frilled edge and the diamond design on it - said it was made in the late 1880's by Kralik.

Interesting article overall as it also discusses the issues of opaline and opal and alabaster glass and how they are not ideal for dispersing the light from the electric bulbs.  For anyone interested it also lists a number of Czech glass makers
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[Ohio]

Granted the one page does not show thorn handles, but thats just one page & Koscherak Bros imported this type of glass for years by the cargo container load so that one page really does not prove nor disprove much of anything except this type of glass can be, to put it mildly, taxing to attribute to a specific source. Same situation exists in the U.S. by Weil of NY which brought in both Czech & Murano glass in the 50s through at least the late 70s with an infusion of Inwald Borolac as an example.

[flying free]

Yes, you are absolutely right - I didn't mean my post to come across as 'it has thorn handles therefore it must be ok'    I should have phrased it differently.

However, 'tis interesting to see a piece dated 1880s by comparison to the advert page as well isn't it. 
As you say, very difficult to tease out which are from which era.
Thanks again for posting that advertisment - it's a real eye-opener.

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