Topic: Engraved wine glass.

[bat20]

Thanks again Mike,

[neil53]

Can't help on the engraving but the glass is almost certainly Bohemian dating from approximately 1740.  Here is a picture of a not dissimilar glass that I own.

[bat20]

Thanks for that Niel,very nice,I've seen a few on the Dr Fischer site dating from about 1730 ,so that's about the area I would say,some from the images I've seen seem a bit thicker with more of a stop or statement ,for want of a better word,between the bowl and stem,mine is light and like yours the twist meanders into the bowl,I don't know if this would date them more precisely.

[flying free]

I think these were an early form of texting  - tiny bit more complicated and a took a bit longer to send but still ...
and possibly what I thought might be clouds on the arm , are sleeves?

I came across this one searching for something else
http://www.auctions-fischer.de/catalogues/online-catalogues/215-european-glass-studio-glass.html?L=1&kategorie=97&artikel=32792&L=1&cHash=aadda23563

The inscription translated by google says
'On back leaf and flower tendrils and inscription
"Honestly l ( i ) provide no hate live and let live also ." '

Think she might have dumped him or spurned his betrothal request, and he sent this to her?

m

[Ivo]

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[flying free]

Ivo - are you quoting the line on the original glass of this thread?
If so, I wonder was it her text to him?  To say that she had many suitors but she'd chosen him?
or his to her?
ah Ivo you took out your quote - so my post is gobbledy gook now 
m

[Ivo]

No I'm the gobbledy gooker here. I noticed too late there were 8 pages of text which I wasnt going to read but which I assumed contained the translation.
Unter diesen allen hat mir dieses gefallen = among all of these, this one pleased me. It cannot refer man or woman, from the grammar - so it either refers to the glass itself or to the engraving.

[bat20]

Thanks m and Ivo,I'm not sure you would go to the trouble of having the glass engraved so elaborately just because you liked the glass itself,so maybe we're back to a religious message,calvinism?

[flying free]

maybe ... or maybe they are love tokens with 'hidden' messages.   Perhaps if you had a gathering, you might just use that one glass to give to the girl you fancied?  A kind of way of a suitor choosing a prospective bride.

Having said that I do see what you mean by the Calvinism link though.
I wonder if there are more around with similar 'messages' but without the disembodied arm?  i.e. they have a different picture on but the same or similar wording.  Then it might indicate that they were love tokens rather than having 'religious' connotations.

m

[bat20]

I'm probably being a bit thick here,but I think someone's going to have to explain Ivo's post  to me very slowly