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Offline vanmann

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Mtarfa Jack in Pulpit?
« on: June 17, 2015, 12:35:17 PM »
Hoping that someone can confirm this signature as Mtarfa. If not any other suggestions please. I can never understand how someone can create an exquisite piece of glass yet are unable to write a single legible word!!!!
All thoughts appreciated, John

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Re: Mtarfa Jack in Pulpit?
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2015, 02:43:49 PM »
No expert, but it's Isle of Wight (IOW) isn't it? Far better known for JiPs
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Re: Mtarfa Jack in Pulpit?
« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2015, 02:56:31 PM »
Not IoW. I would say Mtarfa

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Re: Mtarfa Jack in Pulpit?
« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2015, 03:20:31 PM »
The writing underneath doesn't look like any "Mtarfa" I've seen, but they did use a lot of odd looking writing anyway.
The style of JIP looks far more Alum Bay IoW than any other, but Alum Bay JIPs are very finely blown, with kicked-up bases.
IoWSG did not make JIPs.
I do not remember ever seeing a Mtarfa JIP.

Is the beast either very heavy or very light, Vanmann?
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Re: Mtarfa Jack in Pulpit?
« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2015, 04:01:27 PM »
390 grammes, 20 cms tall so fairly substantial. I would not have expected Alum Bay to have flat ground base, but I may be wrong on that

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Re: Mtarfa Jack in Pulpit?
« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2015, 04:14:22 PM »
It's the overall shape that is reminiscent of Alum Bay - the colours less so, and I would have expected Alum Bay to be very finely blown. I think we can rule them out.
I really wouldn't like to say Mtarfa either, given the mark on the base, but I don't know what else it might/could be.
I'm clueless, I'm afraid.
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Re: Mtarfa Jack in Pulpit?
« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2015, 04:49:34 PM »
I agree that the sig is ambiguous and I thought 'IOW' was there-  perhaps not on second glance. Here is a link to some JiPs from Alum Bay (perhaps).

Here's one for Mtarfa JiPs (perhaps).
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Re: Mtarfa Jack in Pulpit?
« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2015, 05:12:00 PM »
I do recognise some Mtarfa colourways amongst those - so Mtarfa is the most likely after all.
(Although I'd like to see a marked piece in this colourway, in a different shape, to be 100% sure.)

I don't know how to condense a link to a search. I deleted the JIP bit of David's search and plugged in "signature" instead. Some odd, crude marks did appear, which might be similar to this one?

I can only ask others to do the same, and try to see if they can compare the squiggle. I can't compare squiggles because of short term memory problems. By the time I look at the second thing, I've forgotten what the first one looks like.
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Re: Mtarfa Jack in Pulpit?
« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2015, 07:00:50 PM »
In my opinion certainly not Alum Bay - plus the fact that as far as I know, they never signed their glass - at least not run of the mill items - and as Sue has said their bases almost always had a 'kick'.

I would suggest this is a slightly unusual Mtarfa signature, or some Maltese copy  -  the flat base is very like the Maltese pieces.

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Re: Mtarfa Jack in Pulpit?
« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2015, 07:21:31 PM »
First thought was Alum Bay too but the base...

What about Valletta?

John

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