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Author Topic: Czechoslavakian Chrysophase glass. AND Cellophane  (Read 26289 times)

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Re: Czechoslavakian Chrysophase glass. AND Cellophane
« Reply #50 on: July 12, 2019, 04:38:05 PM »
That article was interesting as it refers to a practise of sandwiching decoration between two thick layers... so more incidental support for the source of 'Cellophane'.
The unusual nature of the transparency of the colours used in 'Cellophane' should provide a final clue if it can be found in Hantich's other products. It is so distinctive and probably has some metallic component.

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Re: Czechoslavakian Chrysophase glass. AND Cellophane
« Reply #51 on: July 12, 2019, 06:06:13 PM »
Frank, scroll down on this link and there is at the bottom of that catalogue for sale listing, a bright orange/tan coloured  organic shaped vase with mica in it.  It comes from the Hantich Plant  Borske Sklo - there was something in the article I read that the Hantich plant was taken over by Borske Sklo? maybe?  something like that.  That vase dates to the 1950s.  I wonder if when their is talk about metallic inclusions in cased glass, that is what they are talking about.  A different period in the life of at least the Hantich plant. 
I do wonder if the ' cellophane ' vases date to that period also? 
https://www.bidorbuy.co.za/item/414217551/_RARE_CZECH_ART_GLASS_REFERENCE_MATERIAL_POST_WAR_CONTEMPORARY_CZECH_ART_GLASS_VOL_VII_MINT.html

https://img.bidorbuy.co.za/image/upload/f_auto,q_auto:best/user_images/633/1252633/190510230030_post-war%20and%20contemporary%20czech%20art%20glass%20veliskova.jpg



However, the use of two colours and the shading effect on the 'cellophane' glass is quite similar to a few of the Johnolyth pieces as well. That two coloured graded effect  is also what makes me think that the feathered effect vases (two that I've found in two colour glass) and my feathered effect lampbase also two coloured  (no mica in the pieces I'm thinking of) also might come from Hantich.

Just adding a link to a what should be a good picture of three cellophone vases together to show the graded colour variation:
http://www.bohemianglass.org/image/preview/?image=1539797140_dsc08981.JPG&width=1000&height=700&exact=0

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Re: Czechoslavakian Chrysophase glass. AND Cellophane
« Reply #52 on: July 13, 2019, 10:36:39 PM »
Would it help if I posted you a piece to handle? I only have the plain red one left which is quite small.

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Re: Czechoslavakian Chrysophase glass. AND Cellophane
« Reply #53 on: July 13, 2019, 11:10:21 PM »
No, don't part with it.  I can imagine it :)
I have an amber bowl with the green fronds/ribbons and it's very heavy so I can imagine the ' cellophane ' pieces. 
We'll get there.  It has to be a Czech maker.  Thinking also that if it is marked 'made in Czechoslovakia' that might be a clue to dating.  So after 1930 (can't remember the exact dating on that but there is definitely something Craig put out about that mark and dates of it) but I wonder when that marking stopped?

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Re: Czechoslavakian Chrysophase glass. AND Cellophane
« Reply #54 on: May 17, 2022, 12:19:45 AM »
Cellophane vase here marked Czecho  slovakia in two lines on the base inside the pontil mark:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/394055691702?hash=item5bbf8cadb6:g:uMsAAOSwyNJib~fU

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Re: Czechoslavakian Chrysophase glass. AND Cellophane
« Reply #55 on: May 17, 2022, 04:11:34 PM »
Great find!
It is an acid etched mark, in a circle.
I wonder if the seller would be kind enough to allow us to keep a copy of the image.
It is evidence.
Cheers, Sue M. (she/her)

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Re: Czechoslavakian Chrysophase glass. AND Cellophane
« Reply #56 on: May 17, 2022, 04:30:14 PM »
Just to add to your description Sue, the lettering is etched with each letter in outline with the internal space of each letter unetched (or at least it looks like that to me)

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Re: Czechoslavakian Chrysophase glass. AND Cellophane
« Reply #57 on: May 17, 2022, 04:47:55 PM »
Yes, it's a bit strange. But we might as well get as good a description as we can muster.

The letters stand out clear, against a darker grey surround, which is individual to each word. It's clear again around the surround and up to the enclosing circle.
Is it a double circle, or just the way the light hits it in the pic?
Cheers, Sue M. (she/her)

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Re: Czechoslavakian Chrysophase glass. AND Cellophane
« Reply #58 on: May 17, 2022, 06:59:13 PM »
I also thought it was a double circle.  A little like the letters are outlined so is the circle surround possibly?

So that is two versions now that have been marked Czechoslovakia.  At least we can be sure that's where they were made then :)  Finding the maker is a different matter.
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Re: Czechoslavakian Chrysophase glass. AND Cellophane
« Reply #59 on: May 17, 2022, 08:13:28 PM »
It looks like a fainter ring around the inner one, definitely seperate from it, and not as dark as the (almost smoke-like) grey surround on the lettering.
 :) :) :)
Cheers, Sue M. (she/her)

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