Topic: Balluster knop dram glass? help please.

[brucebanner]

I think this glass has been around for a while as there is wear to the rim top surface, not sure if that's from being turned upside down or teeth wear, i'm bored at work at the minute and after a few hours looking up Ballusters i have come across something very slightly similar but not the same colour here, http://18cglass.co.uk/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=2&sort=20a&page=4,

The link i think explains the ball started off at the base and headed up the glass as years went on, due to the glass being tricky to hold.

Not that i'm assuming it's as old as the one in the link of course.

[bat20]

The foot could be an indicator to it's age,it isn't folded maybe something you would expect for a baluster,so it's almost like some one looking over at the English glass and doing a version of it,30 to 50 years later maybe?l

[brucebanner]

Well iv'e come back from work and some old glass glows some doesn't, the few old continental glasses i have glow really bright, a couple of folded foots glow and a couple of others don't, perhaps there are others with similar old glass of age that glow and others are clear, ive gone through about 40 clear pieces as i mainly collect coloured drinking glasses, and it seems to make no odds the age of a glass to the glow. Some old Murano glass i have glows some 1860's Stourbridge glass shows nothing.

[Ivo]

Manganese had been used in many products, but most between circa 1860 and circa 1915 when selenium replaced it as a decolourant. A lot of (american pressed) glass was artificially sun purpled in the window sill, and even faster when antique dealers discovered UV lamps. Manganese in glass is easily detected by the use of a black light: if it shows up yellow, it is suitable for this type of falsification. That is why you think 1860-1915 for any product with a particular yellow refraction under UV light.

[Lustrousstone]

It is also found in newer products too, so I would move that dateline to at least the 1950s

[oldglassman]

Hi,
      Just back from an internet free holiday (lovely) and saw this thread ,

I would agree with bat20 that this glass is Continental probably German and a schnapps glass from the 18th c,if it were an English glass yes Paul S ,we would call it a dram glass ,

The UV reaction tells me it is non lead,which is all I look for in old glass , is it lead glass or not ,

I think the term thistle mentioned by PaulS is in regard to bowl shapes , not stem shapes , the thistle bowl being fairly common in the 18th c , also that the stem shapes referred to are in regard to whether the glass has a True Baluster stem or an Inverted baluster stem , the True Baluster being fairly uncommon with the inverted Baluster being much more common , whether this was to aid grip or purely a style preference is unknown.

So my bet would be ,A continental schnapps glass(dram glass) most likely German and from the mid to late 18th c , 

You will find many similar examples on here

http://www.ebay.de/sch/17001799-/60865/i.html?_armrs=1&_from=R9&_ipg=&_pcats=7478%2C353&_dct=1&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEFSRCHX%3ASRCH

cheers ,
  Peter ,

ps I think your sweetmeat looks fine to me for a nice period example .

[brucebanner]

Thanks everyone for your thought's and input, much appreciated.