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Author Topic: Stevens and Williams 'air-trap' bowl ?  (Read 1705 times)

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Offline keith

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Stevens and Williams 'air-trap' bowl ?
« on: August 17, 2015, 04:04:55 PM »
7 inches long 3.5 high with threading a folded foot and raspberry prunt to the base, am I right ?

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Re: Stevens and Williams 'air-trap' bowl ?
« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2015, 06:05:35 PM »
Keith I can't remember but I think Bernard has a footed compote/tazza in this pattern.
yikes, could it be Stuart?  I'll have  a quick look and see if I can find my reference.
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Re: Stevens and Williams 'air-trap' bowl ?
« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2015, 06:11:39 PM »
ok, there is a tazza in Mervyn Gulliver's Victorian Decorative Glass page 199 that I have noted next to
'3890 Stuart 1882 - Bernard C from M Gulliver on 19/11/12 Glass Message Board'
hope you can find it.  I do remember I think, that a picture was not on the board and I think I asked Bernard if he might add it again.
But that's dredging my memory so could be wrong :)

On the one next to it I have noted '4009 Stuart?'
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Re: Stevens and Williams 'air-trap' bowl ?
« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2015, 06:23:16 PM »
Thanks for looking m, I hadn't seen that one, only been through that book a 1000 times  ::) , it looks just like it, the one I saw is on page 118, top left,  ;D ;D

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Re: Stevens and Williams 'air-trap' bowl ?
« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2015, 06:32:49 PM »
yep I saw that as well but I don't have a definite reference against that one.
Just the tazza.
I'll try and find the thread this evening.
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Re: Stevens and Williams 'air-trap' bowl ?
« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2015, 07:29:49 PM »

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Re: Stevens and Williams 'air-trap' bowl ?
« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2015, 08:07:57 PM »
Siblings...

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Re: Stevens and Williams 'air-trap' bowl ?
« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2015, 08:09:11 PM »
Many thanks for that m, so Stuart it is ( thanks Bernard we miss you ) very close cousins I'd say  ;D

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Re: Stevens and Williams 'air-trap' bowl ?
« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2015, 09:20:47 PM »
Keith something interesting.

Bernard says in one of his posts '...  But that was ten years ago, and it was Mervyn Gulliver who pointed out to me that the tazza he had not attributed in his book was actually Stuart pattern No. 3890, with a pattern book date of around 1882.   He has also found other shapes, for example pattern 4009 was a shallow bowl with a gently crimped rim and three scroll feet.   His example of 4009 had 14 crimps around the rim, just like your 002.   These two are, without any doubt whatsoever, Frederick Stuart, Red House Glassworks (Stuart & Sons from 1885).'

On page 64 of Cyril Manley's Decorative Victorian Glass, there is a bowl photographed that appears to be the same pattern as your bowl (difficult to tell from the pic).  It does appear to have more than 14 crimps around it's edge, but it does have 3 scroll feet and a raspberry prunt so may also be Stuart 4009.
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Re: Stevens and Williams 'air-trap' bowl ?
« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2015, 10:31:41 PM »
Don't have Manley's book, yet, next time I go to the local archives I'll see what they have on Stuart if there's nothing there I'll pop over to the 'Cone' and see what they've got, ;D

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