Not sure if it's new or old, the lid is for certain it's a standard epns 3 1/4 inch lid, I've got another 2 recent loetz kralik type vases non have wear, I'm pretty sure there old same style trailing, this type of glass gives me a right headache, yes it was from Paul's it reminded me of the other two that's why I picked it up same feel and a lot of ingrained dirt in the folds.