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Whitefriars production colours
Paul S.:
thanks - obviously I was wrong with my assumptions then :) - serious collectors of W/Fs seem not so frequent these days, at least not on the GMB ……… that is apart from Tom ;)
Anne:
I seem to recall that Harrow Museum acquired a lot of the paperwork from Whitefriars. https://headstonemanor.org/
The Museum of London also has a Whitefriars collection. https://collections.museumoflondon.org.uk/online/group/24222.html
Paul S.:
Should have remembered the Museum of London connection - Leslie Jackson's book was produced to accompany that exhibition in the 1990s - plus the exhibition also spent some time in Manchester.
The opening page shows a Whitefriars goblet described as 'made in Flint (colourless) glass' - with production date c. 1970.
Not impossible of course that this piece might have been made using flint pebbles, though highly unlikely, but surprising and misleading that the MoL should equate clear glass with the word flint for a piece as recent as c. 1970. Since this goblet shows some v.g. cutting, then it might be assumed to have some lead content.
Surprisingly, Jackson's glossary for 'flint' reads …...……. "Clear colourless glass. Mainly used to describe lead glass, but during the early 20th century colourless soda glass was sometimes described as "soda flint" - no wonder we get confused ;)
Perhaps someone might ask the MoL if they have any of the workbooks mentioned here.
glassobsessed:
Whitefriars gave the name Flint to their clear glass.
Paul S.:
yes, thanks John - I was drawing attention to the possible confusion, since, as we know, there was/is a genuine description of clear glass, where the silica, instead of being sand, was composed of crushed flint pebbles, and the resulting clear glass being called flint. When I looked at the goblet in the link, my first thought on reading the description was that it had been made from crushed flints rather than sand.
W/Fs. use of the word was in the sense of a sales appeal - sounds much better than saying simply clear glass, and I see the appeal - and in future I'll be forewarned. :)
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