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Does anyone recognise the maker's mark (etched) =S=

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catshome:
Hi,  I have 3 crystal glasses and I'd like to try and match them but I've failed to find this maker's mark.  It's etched, and is literally a capital S between two equals signs.  =S=  Anyone recognise it?  Many thanks Cat

Mike M:
99% certain Stuart

Somewhere I read it was a mark they used for certain department stores etc when the store didn't want someone else's name on the goods!

I have some enamelled pieces which are 100% certain Stuart, bearing such a mark.

cheers

Mike

catshome:
Mike,
Thank you, you are brilliant!  I have now established that they are Stuart Dorset Sherry glasses (big bowls for a sherry glasses in my experience), and that I can't afford the missing 3!

Thanks again
Kind regards
Cat

Bernard C:
Cat — Mike was correct, but the attribution is much more interesting than just a department store.

You are fortunate in owning what I believe to be the most romantic English glass collectable.   The mark is actually an "S" over a Plimsoll Line, painted on the side of ships to ensure that the ship is properly laden.    The "S" was the mark of John Stonier & Co. of Liverpool, principal wholesalers to the shipping lines, including the White Star line, and is found on glass and china, and possibly on other goods.    I believe that Stoniers was also a Liverpool department store.

All the examples I have seen have been on Stuart uncoloured cut lead crystal, but you cannot assume this, as Stoniers could have sourced from other glassworks.     There are at least two versions of the mark, one with a thick curly "S" and another with a thinner, more angular "S" with hints of corners.   I think the second of these could be the later.    Obviously, as it is acid-etched, the mark was applied at the glassworks.

While we know the mark was used on stemware and tableware used on board, we don't really know whether it was used on glass souvenirs sold on board, but I believe this also to be true.

So, what you have is glass either kept or bought on board an ocean liner as a souvenir of a voyage, or as a gift.

It is the easiest glass in the world to sell with all the romantic connotations, but not easy to find.   I've not found any for over a year.

While I have no objection to anyone using this information, acknowledgement would be appreciated.

Bernard C.  8)

catshome:
Bernard, I think I want to marry you and have your children.............there is something about a man who knows so much about something I'm particularly interested in................

On a more cautionary note.............your descriptions practically had me describing them as the glasses that almost went down with the Titanic but the lorry was late getting to the docks!

They have a curvy "S", and I assume they could have been sold in a store rather than on a ship so it makes it a little difficult to use the romantic connection as an absolute certainty.

Thank you for taking the time to give me so much information.  I will of course give full credit if I decide to sell them and quote the information in anyway on a public forum.

Kindest regards
Cat

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