Topic: Hi Is this Millefiori paperweight Ysart or Vasart or something please? Thanks :)

[chriss]

Hi
I was hoping for some id confirmation please?
I'm pretty sure this millefiori paperweight is Ysart (I think there is a cane with a Y but it may just be V?  ) it's the cane in the last pic between and in front of the 2 yellow ones which are shown roughly central towards the front of the paperweight. On scotlandglass website there's similar(ish) canes to some within this weight like the heart one (#15?), but I can't find any with the german style cross cane within it? http://www.ysartglass.com/Vascat/VasPcanes.htm
The base shows the back of the canes from underneath, but there's no date or signature canes there that I can see.
Any help would be great please?
Thanks 

[Lustrousstone]

Looks like a Strathearn closepack to me

[tropdevin]

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Hi.  Typical Strathearn closepack.  The cross cane (Maltese cross) is seen quite often in their paperweights.  I don't see a Y cane, I'm afraid - the Salvador Y cane is a very definite Y.

Alan

[chriss]

Hi, thanks for your replies, because the photos aren't clear enough to see the cane I was talking about, Ive tried to get a better shot of the cane that to me, looks like a letter as it's so tiny, but now I know the Y (or V?) would be crystal clear, I'm wondering if it's a cane that is a bit 'scruffy' or maybe is supposed to be flower stamen? It's just so small, I can barely make it out without scrutinising it :/ It's to the right and just below the yellow maltese cross cane Sorry pics yesterday weren't that great, I had to dissect my lamp shade to get lighting for this one 

[tropdevin]

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Hi.  I see the cane you mean, but I think it is a case of serendipity, where three internal designs elements are pressed together.  Many letters and numbers can be generated by accident - the Old English paperweights of Arculus and Walsh Walsh provide all kinds of examples.   I have had a look through some of my Strathearn closepack images, and the 'Maltese Cross' shape appears in several of them.

Alan

[chriss]

Great  thanks for the info about the canes and confirming that it is Strathearn, much appreciated

[KevinH]

For confirmation about similar visual uncertainty, please see:
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-4986

That cane shows how two of its three larger central elements have slippage, causing a "V" shape to be formed. The lowest of those larger elements shows the basic cane design which, itself, also has three larger and three smaller elements.

Many folk, through normal viewing, have been convinced that the distorted version of that cane (and others like it) show a definite "V" or "Y" signature!