Topic: 17th century glass goblet with repair staples

[Antwerp1954]

Why do you believe this is 17th century?

[chopin-liszt]

I suspect it is because of the rumour heard about stapling mends not being continued after 1750.

But they were. We have evidence.

[Fuhrman Glass]

Stapling was definitely done after the 17th century as I have some dated souvenir pieces that are stapled that are not 17th century.

[Lustrousstone]

1700 anything would make it 18th Century

[glassobsessed]

The vessel on the right was repaired with a couple of staples, not that easy to see in this photo. They would have been made circa 1880, the repair could of course have been any time after that.

John

[staceysteve]

Hello and thank you to everyone who has shard on this post.
Please excuse my lack of knowledge about glass and centuries.

I have done some research on the drinking vessel and have found out its late 18th century to early 19th century possibly bohemian possibly Egermann before he and 2 other gentleman chemist found out how to color glass. This was around 1777 to 1860. Before that time color was only infused in Vienna and it was being kept a secret.

I have found alot of egermann work but I believe my glass might have been made before he became so popular around the world due to the blue color . He was famous for his red glass more than any other color.

If anyone has any information please feel free to correct me or share what you may know.

thanks staceysteve

[Antwerp1954]

People have been making coloured, including blue, glass for at least 2000 years.

See https://ancientglass.wordpress.com/variations-in-glass-art-and-style/blue-glass-ancient-to-modern/

From the shape of the glass - foot, stem, bowl - and the thickness of it this is NOT an 18th century, or even early 19th century, glass. My own interest is mainly in pre-1840 glass and this form of glass, I believe, was made after that date. I'll leave it for those who specialise in more modern glass to advise on the likely date and origin of your stapled glass.

[staceysteve]

Yes that is true but from what I read only in Vienna till 1770 ' s then it spread around the world

[oldglassman]

Hi,
          I think your source material could be to a specific type of glass ,which if related to Egermann as you suggest he was born in 1777 and known for his inventions in the 19th c of Lithyalin glass and coloured glazes for glass,
 I can only agree with Antwerps comments above in that coloured glass has been made since glass was made , from the 16th c Venise produced coloured glass drinking vessels and other objects,Germany,the Low Contries and Bohemia were producing drinking vessels in coloured glass in the 17th c along with England and Ireland and have continued to make coloured glass to this day.

It might be helpful If you could clarify what you think was only available in Vienna till 1770s,

cheers

Peter.

[flying free]

I had a piece of stapled glass from the 1930s - a jam pot in a silver stand by Walsh Walsh.  There's a photo of it on here somewhere.

Is it possible to repost your pictures so they are 600 x 400 pixels please? These will enlarge enough to see the glass properly.
Also, what source are you referencing for your assertions about coloured glass only being made in Vienna until the 1770s please? 

Thanks
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