Topic: Sowerby Queens's Ivory Ware New Pattern ?? or Variation of 1568

[mhgcgolfclub]

Fred

Some pictures of a piece I recently bought, very similar to pattern 1568 , with the same date and parcel number, 11th March 1881.

This pattern has 3 bands around the top not 2 and 2 bands around the center.

The foliage decoration is also different.
I will add some better pics later.

Height to rim 2"

Roy

[agincourt17]

Thank you, Roy. This piece seems to be quite small - posy vase?, salt?

The mystery deepens with the lozenge for 11 March 1881 and the pattern numbers associated with it.

I await your new pics with interest.

Fred.

[mhgcgolfclub]

Thanks Fred

A bit small for a sugar, could be a salt , tooth pick holder or a posy vase.

Roy

[agincourt17]

Here is a partial solution to the 'mystery', Roy - what you show is illustrated in the 'Vases, Spills & Baskets' section on page 11 of Pattern book IX (1882) as Sowerby pattern 1569.

The registry date lozenge for 11 March 1881 - Parcel 2 covers a bundle of 11 design registrations, RD numbers 362734 to 362744 inclusive.

We now know that RD 362734 corresponds to sugar basin (and matching creamer) pattern 1560, that RD 362735 corresponds to sugar basin (and matching creamer) pattern 5006, and that RD 362744 is a pedestal bowl with 2 loop handles (described in Cottle & Thompson as a 'sugar basin' or 'sugar').

The other designs in the bundle are described as:
RD 362736   sugar basin (described as 'upright churn shape' by Thompson)
RD 362737   round salt cellar
RD 362738   mustard
RD 362739   sugar basin
RD 362740   salt cellar
RD 362741   candlestick
RD 362742   dish
RD 362743   butter dish
but Paul is probably the only person who may be able to tell us which, if any, of those RDs may correspond to your pattern 1569 piece.
Fred.

[mhgcgolfclub]

Thank you Fred for all your hard work and help confirming the pattern number.

Roy

[Paul S.]

it's a shame so many original Registration drawings are bereft of dimensions, and I agree that at 2" this would seem too small to be a sugar - but as you can see from the original drawing (I hope, but rather blurred) - this is precisely what it was called by the factory  -  "New shape sugar".         
The Reg. is No. 362736 - and there's nothing in the spread of the other numbers from that date, that looks to come close to this design.           
I can remember aloooominum churns from my childhood that were simply upright and tubular in shape, and dating to circa the middle of the C20, but assume that some late C19 copper or brass ones ones were conical.            Oddly, the factory drawing and Roy's example, show the narrowing in opposite directions.

I can understand Thompson's description as refecting the shape shown in the original factory drawing, but looking at this thing in the flesh, it reminds me more of the shape of a pail (minus the handle of course).                Obviously, some artistic licence between the original drawing and how it eventually turned out.

In view of the obvious difference between the drawing and the real thing, I'll try in the coming days to show all of the other items in that day's Registration list  -  which will confirm this as 362736.

[agincourt17]

Thank you very much, Paul.

Correlating the design representations of some of the Sowerby designs in these large bundles with their pattern numbers certainly can be 'challenging' at times (and the application of a little imagination and artistic licence is helpful at times).

I look forward to trying to match some of the other design representations from this bundle with their pattern numbers in due course.

Fred.

[Paul S.]

Here are some of the other Registrations we've discussed from 11th March 1881 .............   Nos. 362737 - 362743  -  seven Registrations in total, but only six pix  .... so two will go over into the next post.

[Paul S.]

and the last two pictures covering Rd. Nos. 362741 - 743:

[agincourt17]

Thank you for showing these design representations, Paul.

It's getting rather late now, but I will do my best to try and correlate them with Sowerby pattern numbers tomorrow.

Fred.