Topic: Georgian, Victorian punch cup or something else?.

[Lustrousstone]

The colour does depend on the amount of UV something has received but only if it contains manganese decoloriser. High quality sand such as from Loch Aline did not require decoloriser
 

[Paul S.]

I believe we did chat on colour some time back  -  if I remember correctly the origin of the lead oxide also affects the colour of the glass, at least on British produced pieces.          Believe Christine is suggesting that the u.v. causes the manganese to head a little toward the purple shade - i.e. sun purpling.

would like to see the jelly Chris, if possible  -  is it a 'nipt diamond waies' job or honeycome-moulded piece

[brucebanner]

No idea and scared of going off topic.

Here it is £3 today.


Wafer thin and 119 grams in weight.

3 3/4 inches in height. 8 section rib moulded.

Going by the sweetmeat in Therle Hughes page 31 and others online.

[flying free]

can you post it in a separate thread please? 

It's so hard to search and find items if the items are merged in on topic.

Thanks
m

[brucebanner]

As a thread develops why not add to it?.

I'm talking colour, age.

I can't see a problem.

I would like to put the last 5 things i have got next to this to show colour variation but i have not got the time to show them individual it takes about 20 min to show one.

It's all relevant.

[flying free]

oh, ok, I thought you were looking for an id for the sweetmeat
my apologies.
m

[brucebanner]

I really appreciate everyones help btw 

[Paul S.]

that was probably my fault m for encouraging Chris to add an unrelated item here;)        Chris  -  as a suggestion, why not start a new thread in the next day or two, called -  'Additives affecting the colour of glass' or some such........

P.S.   you don't get id's for sweetmeats m  -  you may argue over age/date or style, but never id            I wanted to see this piece so my fault.

Assume you're taking the bowl pattern and raised foot, from the left hand example Chris, to compare with yours.          In the Tim Udall collection there were pieces virtually identical to yours and the Delomosne description reads............  "Panel moulding, sometimes called rib-moulding, seems to be the most favoured treatment of vessel glass, certainly in the middle fifty years of the C18, the period in which all of these five glasses fall"  -   (there's a b. & w. plate showing five jellies/custards accompanying this text, both with and without handles.          It would be difficult to say definitely 1730 as these things are impossible to date with precision.

[brucebanner]

Good for 3 quid though.


chuck in local sand as Christine suggests.

I don't think other pictures can be unrelated as long as they are linked to the op.

[Paul S.]

more than good .........   I'd say stonkingly good for £3, and a heartwarming find at a cold February boot sale.       Can we categorize Loch Aline as local  -  depends where you live I guess.