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Author Topic: Half a pressed glass Newfoundland dog paperweight. Frigger? Derbyshire?  (Read 4293 times)

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Offline Della

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Re: Half a pressed glass Newfoundland dog paperweight. Frigger? Derbyshire?
« Reply #20 on: January 22, 2017, 09:29:01 PM »
No, no green. Clear with blue swirls and a small brown swirl.
Are the edges on yours finished off better than mine, Roy? I suppose it was all down to whoever made them and how much time they had for fancyfying (my word for today)  :P
Thanks for posting the photo too, Roy.  8)
If I know, I'll comment. If I think I know, I'll have a go. If I have no idea, I'll just keep quiet and learn from others, so the next time I'll know.

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Re: Half a pressed glass Newfoundland dog paperweight. Frigger? Derbyshire?
« Reply #21 on: January 22, 2017, 09:51:42 PM »
Not ever seen one your colour, looks like they may of mixed some of the left over glass without to much mixing. Almost a very early marbled ( slag) glass.

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Re: Half a pressed glass Newfoundland dog paperweight. Frigger? Derbyshire?
« Reply #22 on: January 22, 2017, 10:51:41 PM »
it's cheating really, isn't it?  to have half a dog only..........    makes me think of the Staffordshire flat-backs of standing couples and dogs etc. in ceramics, and of course to make only half a dog requires a much simpler one piece mould, so not a complex job, and achievable by less experienced worker.

But the point I wanted to make was..........  m how can you make even the remotest connection with this dog and the Bermondsey Maddona?  Where is the art deco influence apparent in this half a dog?     Now if you'd said the colouring looked almost a bit Maltese, then I'd agree.     The Maddona is in a different league altogether. ;)

Sorry Della  -  not a doggy person, so regret can't help. :)

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Re: Half a pressed glass Newfoundland dog paperweight. Frigger? Derbyshire?
« Reply #23 on: January 22, 2017, 11:04:12 PM »
hey, I found the dog didn't I?  didn't take long.
Sometimes it's the brain-storming that helps those connections :) who knows how my brain links things together   :-[  and I don't know where I remember seeing it from but I'd seen it before on that site because I remembered the cast iron link.

The Madonna?  I've seen one in much clearer glass with swirly coloured bits in it quite like the glass of Della's dog, so that was my first thought - and nothing is known of Guy Underwood and Bermondsey really, so who's to know that he didn't make something similar in a poured mold type way I suppose was the way I was thinking.  He also made some fish.  So I suppose I made that link to the glass similarity and animals.

Then I thought it through and suddenly thought it might be very old and bingo.

I find brain-storming very beneficial in research, even if the thought is completely wrong, it often leads to the right connection :)

m

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Re: Half a pressed glass Newfoundland dog paperweight. Frigger? Derbyshire?
« Reply #24 on: January 23, 2017, 09:00:27 AM »
 ;D :-*

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Re: Half a pressed glass Newfoundland dog paperweight. Frigger? Derbyshire?
« Reply #25 on: January 28, 2017, 04:46:59 PM »
 :) Paul, Della, this is the Madonna head that I called to mind - it's very blue swirly with a hint of brown.


http://www.glassmaking-in-london.co.uk/later-glasshouses

quote: ' Blue glass moulded head by Guy Underwood. Ht. c. 5 inches. The bubbly quality of the glass is appropriate for that of a bottle factory.'

Which is why I wondered if Guy Underwood had a hand in casting those half dogs - maybe even from a very old cast if you see what I mean.

and since it was a bottle glass factory ... well, perhaps they made browny amber ones as well and maybe even green? :)

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Re: Half a pressed glass Newfoundland dog paperweight. Frigger? Derbyshire?
« Reply #26 on: January 28, 2017, 05:15:17 PM »
thanks :)   -   I see some dirt, but not brown  ..........   I thought metal was cast and glass was pressed or moulded ;) ;)       Sorry  -  for me the colours are too different to suggest some/any connection, and not now too sure that I see much of an art déco influence in the blue head - perhaps a little of Eric Gill there maybe.

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Re: Half a pressed glass Newfoundland dog paperweight. Frigger? Derbyshire?
« Reply #27 on: January 28, 2017, 05:29:33 PM »
Nope, I've got to disagree :) if you enlarge the head I'm sure there are brown streaks in the glass.

Glass can be cast as well  ;)

I'm sure now thinking about it, that I've seen some swirly bookends from Guy Underwood/Bermondsey as well.
I'm going to have a search.  (just in case, you understand  :))

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Ooh, just come across this long thread which I shall digest later, here are some of my fathers collection, the only one I think we know the maker is the blue one in the middle, I think it's Percival Vickers.
The bottom row are made from left over glass so I've been told.
Cheers Mike

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Hi Mike

I think the blue dog is a Thomas Kidd dog.

Roy

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