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Not Monart /Ysart - Murano suggested

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Anne:
Moved to Murano as suggested.

Lustrousstone:
Thanks Anne. Carolyn if you edit the title on your first post we may get more help

KevinH:
Carolyn raised a couple of interesting points:
--- Quote ---... But what about the averturine? And the colorations with the canes? (And why are they called canes in the first place?)
--- End quote ---
For the point about aventurine and "colorations with the canes", in the context of Ysart glass (where this message originated) both of those elements were indeed used by the Ysarts. But it was not something that only the Ysarts did. Lots of makers in lots of countries used aventurine and millefiori canes in their products - not least of which were those folk on the island of Murano. The way that the aventurine and canes were used by the Ysarts is often visually very different from other makers but not always so.

As for why canes are called canes ... well it's the English version of the Italian "canna" - which on Murano basically means a rod of glass. The term can apply to simple rods or complex ones made up of bundles of other rods (millefiori canes). Also, "cane" is sometimes used when talking about the separately made stems for drinking glasses as, by definition, that it what it is, a length of glass "rod".

For simplicity, people use the term "cane" to mean millefiori canes such as used for decoration for vases, bowls, paperweights etc. But strictly speaking, they should be called "cane slices" as they are indeed slices cut from a single length of cane.

In the late 19th century, Murano makers began to use the term "murrine" when referring to cane slices.

[My info on the meaning of "canes" is based on Venetian Beads, Mosaic Glass and Murrine by Giovanni Sarpellon]

svazzo:
Lately I have seen 2 similar bowls, and both had the Fratelli Toso Castle labels. For years I havent seen any labels on these, except the generic scalloped red and green Venetian glass labels. I still dont think that all the bowls in this shape are by Fratelli Toso, but at least some are.
Javier

Carolyn Preston:
Thanks for the info. on the canes (very interesting) and on the possible maker. I've looked in several books and have not found anything vaguely similar in either the shape (apart from Christine's picture) or in the colouration.

I'm totally confused.  :?

Now,  I have redone the request for information, with a link to the pictures, but I have no idea how to change the title of this thread. If anyone knows, please feel free to do so or send me instructions  :?:

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