Topic: Not sure who these were made by but they feel like English glass any ideas

[LEGSY]

purchased a small set of these recently i can decide what they are for maybe a coffee or a asinthe i am really unsure, My main reasons for the purchase was the engraving and i think i have seen the frosted detail around the base of the bowl before and lead me to believe they may have been by a good maker. Sadly they are not marked just a circle of engraved tiny circles. The measure a decent size of 43/4" tall enough room for a decent vodka & coke maybe..I think i thought they had smilarities with richardsons and pellat i think the company name was i cant remember now sorry.

[Paul S.]

called custard cups/glasses -  as opposed to jellies, which generally didn't have handles and sometimes not even stems.

Custards go back well into early C18 or possibly a tad earlier, though these I'm sure are more likely to be late Victorian, depending on wear etc. -  haven't seen one on here for some time  -  probably lost their popularity - have a look on the GMB search, there should be a lot to view.

The wheel engraving looks very good  -  does it all appear to be hand crafted?  lovely set, and could be English, but equally from elsewhere, and as to maker - forget it - you'll never find out.

P.S.   there are lots of examples - of both custards and jellies - in Silber & Fleming (date c. 1880)

[Paul S.]

I'm going to change my mind, and suggest these are handled jellies, rather than custards.    ..............   and the reason, you ask?
Whilst it's true that custards are far more likely to have handles, they are in the main shorter in the body, whereas the length of body of these examples is more in keeping with the size of jellies - so perhaps a tad more interesting, and uncommon as 'jellies with handles'.
No doubt though that custards and jellies were quite possibly interchangeable in actual use.
The difference between the two types of glasses can be seen clearly in S. & F.  -  a very useful book and very helpful when looking for shapes and names of much Victorian glass.

I had meant to ask what was the significance of "they feel like English glass" - perhaps I've missed something here, or just that I'm not a touchy feely enough sort of person

I assume the 'tiny circles' are those small wheel engraved oval shapes under the foot - simply decoration (a not uncommon feature under feet in second half C19), and nothing to do with telling us anything about the maker, unfortunately.      But again, nice pieces, so good find.   

[LEGSY]

Hi There,
Thank you so much once again for another great reply you really are very helpfull i guess my observation regarding the English glass statement was just a touchy feely sort of thing a gut instinct maybe not sure exactly why of course. I do feel they are a great set just a shame they were not in a nice set of six i have kinda given up with attribution but have them pride of place on my shelf.
Thanks again paul