Topic: Harrach 1860 'Etruscan' or Classical vase-huge 14" tall my oldest piece

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I've just bought this - photo courtesy of seller with their approval
I'll add another pic when it arrives.

It's not the same design as my vase but I suspect it dates to the same period.
I'm not sure at all from whence it came as a similar but not the same greek key was used I think on a Harrach piece but then a similar loops with dots in them and the teardrops was used by Richardson.
It's not frosted as my Harrach vase is.
Measures 9.5" wide - I'm looking forward to seeing it
m

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just for future reference on this topic -

these vases date to 1849 and were produced by A.J.F. Christy Stangate Glass Works, Lambeth England.
They are in the Etruscan style but the decoration is hand painted rather than transfer printed.
http://collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O1087/vase-a-j-f/

[johnphilip]

HI M this may be of interest to you and more info for the forum ebay no 111037563579 , not mine .
a tad pricey methinks . jp

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  yes just a tad (fortunately my plate was so far from that extreme otherwise it would not be residing with me  - mind you I haven't seen it yet so it may well not turn out to be what it seems )

Thanks JP   it's nice to see the variation on the theme.  That pair are different to the ones in the CH British Glass book in the transfers but the shapes are similar.  Vases from that maker in particular seem to be very rare from what was written in the book.
m

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the seller of those also has this for sale
it has an up and down square border round the foot join that is similar to my plate but not the same.
I suspect this vase could be Bohemian and Harrach as well.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=111037520501&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en
According to the description, Dudley museums were unsure whether English or Bohemian.
It has the same up and down square border as a vase in CH British Glass 1800-1914 page 136 second from left which I thought might be Harrach

these in this link are all Richardson.  The one on the left bears marked similarities to a vase in CH British Glass page 135 far left which is also id'd as Richardson
http://www.britishmuseum.org/research/search_the_collection_database/search_object_image.aspx?objectId=3331857&partId=1&searchText=opaline+glass&fromADBC=ad&toADBC=ad&orig=%2fresearch%2fsearch_the_collection_database.aspx&numPages=10&currentPage=1&asset_id=936096

this is a Richardson vase with a blue coloured background - the transfer print is identified as Richardson in CH British Glass 1800-1914 page 99 and 100
http://blackcountryhistory.org/collections/getrecord/DMUSE_ST29/
m

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Came across this looking for something else
A different kind of vase, overlay with cut to clear windows - id'd as Josephinenhutte c.1860 - it seems to be the same transfer as my Etruscan vase.
In the text it translates as
quote ' the sacrificial goddess Hecate, goddess with ivy wreath and shell as well as ancient warrior with spear and shield. ' so whilst it doesn't show the other side it seems it also has a warrior on the other side as mine does, and my warrior also has a spear and shield - that's a little confusing. 
Were Josephinenhutte and Harrach copying each other?

http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/5746370

and it's no longer my oldest piece
m

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My Harrach book has arrived ... hurraaahhh.
the vase I linked to above sold in 2008 as Josephinenhutte, appears in the Harrach book 'From Neuwelt to the whole world'  Jan Mergl on page 180 (English Version) as Prod.no 666 - so Harrach not Josephinenhutte
m

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This looks like another Harrach example to my eye, just over 25cm tall, the scenes are transfer rather than hand painted.

John