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Stunning Alabaster Glass / Opaline Perfume Bottle. Bohemia ca. 1820-1840
antonizz:
Hi,
Thank you very much for your reply!
I will make better pictures this week, but it ìs thick and opaque.
There's only a small spot in the bottom where the opalescent effect is visible.
BUT.... just 2 minutes ago I have spotted the exact same bottle, only with another cap.
(And I'm pretty sure my cap is original)
If you are interested in seeing it:
Go to the passau Museum Website.
(https://www.glasmuseum.de/1/glassammlung/panoramen/)
-Then click to visit the Biedermeier Hall.
-From where the camera starts, it's in the 7th showcase, if you move to the right.
-I'm pretty excited by the way, since I have been searching for months, and by some kind of intuition
had the urge to visit the Panorama on their website.
Perhaps I should thank you ;)
flying free:
1) Yes I see it :)
Well done for spotting it.
Very similar but difficult to say identical because my screen and their photography doesn't allow to see it clearly but the bottle does look to be very similar. Your stopsel is I would think the correct one for your bottle. Their's appears to be plain white and a plain stopper.
Would be nice to find a book reference to that piece. I will have another look at other books if I have time today.
2) That type of diagonal cutting is described as 'turban cut' - I couldn't remember the phrase earlier.
3) This piece has some similarity with yours in the type of glass used to make it. Glaskilian describes it as 'milchglas'. It is dated c.1840. I thought it an interesting comparison:
https://www.glaskilian.de/Biedermeier_UEberfang_Flakon_e.640+B6YmFja1BJRD02NDAmTD0xLiZwcm9kdWN0SUQ9MTU2NjImcGlkX3Byb2R1Y3Q9NjQwJmRldGFpbD0_.0.html
I have one piece dating from that period which is alabasterglas from Annathal- it looks blue over white and can look quite opaque in photography (sort of could look like more opaque 'milchglas') but in my hand it is much more transparent really and a different kind of glass. Very difficult to explain but there is a difference between what I think of as 'milchglas' and 'alabasterglas', and then also a difference between 'alabasterglas' and 'opaline glass which has been opacified with something which means when it is held up to the light it glows fiery or bright orangey red'.
If you haven't bought Das Bohmische Glas band II then I think you would find it very interesting. It is much better having books than just using the internet :)
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antonizz:
A late response..
I have made some new pictures, which shows that it's very thick, and not translucent.
The link you shared is indeed kind of the same style.
I have seen 2 moser bottles on RubyLane as well, although it's not really coming close.
I have also mailed the Passau Museum, but unfortunately they didn't respond.
And I'm definately thinking about "Das Böhmische Glas" (I-VII)
Thanks for your help!
antonizz:
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[Mod: I have removed one set of 4 photos which were a repeat of the 4 abpve]
flying free:
If I was you having seen what you like to buy, I would buy Band II first then maybe Band III (later period about 1850-1880 or something - can't remember).
It is a truly beautiful museum piece and with original stopper as well.
Have a bit of a search on Dr Fischer auctions and see if you can find similar.
I have one piece with stopper in almost perfect enamel condition that dates to about 1825 in a rare type of coloured glass. I will put it on the board one day.
It's quite unusual in my opinion, to find them with the stopper and they will never ever be made again. They are evidence of the early methods of making milchglas or opaque coloured glass where the factories were making their own recipes for coloured glass, and near the beginning of the period where coloured glass was having a renaissance in fashion.
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