Topic: Butter Dish, Rd GB 814921

[Paul S.]

failure I'm afraid.                The attached picture of the Register page shows that a Certificate for this Registration wasn't issued, and as can be seen the previous No. suffered the same fate  -  in view of the fact that both Registrations were dated 27th August 1936, this might just lead to speculation that both Nos. were originally granted to the same Registrant, but that's only an opinion.               As can be seen, both Nos. were originally declared as CLASS IV, the most common reason for omission from the Blue Book.
Unfortunately, the Representations book is without any image of 814921, so in view of this lack of information it's unlikely we shall ever know details of the Registrant etc. 

Just for the record, Kew references are ……………   for the Representations book (the images) it's BT 52/2052  -   for the Register (details of the Registrant) it's BT 53/72   

[LinzC]

Aw, what a shame.

Thank you so much for going to the trouble and effort of looking it up for me.  It's very much appreciated.

[Paul S.]

fortunately, this happens very rarely, but nonetheless disappointing.                What's with this sound 'aw'  -  seems suddenly very popular.   Is it a gender thing??  :-):-):-).
You now need to find something that we can locate  -  we will of course save up one or two Registration requests for when you visit Kew in September;-)

Other matter posted today.

[LinzC]

I'm not sure if it's a gender thing or a northern thing.  Probably a bit of both! 

I'll give looking up the registration details a go.  You'll never learn if you don't try!  I want to get my hands on the incorporation and liquidation papers for Holborn Glass Works though. 

Thank you.

[Paul S.]

have you tried Kew yet for those details in TNA online pages, Lindsey, or spoken to them  -  I'm more than happy to make some effort toward an initial search for you, unless of course you're already part way through researching them?

[LinzC]

I searched online and found TNA hold the details for Holborn Glass Works Ltd incorporation (1920), BT31/25859/166912 & the liquidators accounts BT34/4563/166912, which it states was between 1920&1932.  However they're not listed in the 1928 PG Directory.

Knowing how much paper work can be in company papers, and not what will be relevant until I see it (other than names, addresses, directors, etc), I didn't contact Kew about it yet.  I was planning on working my way through the available local archives first.  It's a research-in-progress! 

Thank you very much for your kind offer.

[Paul S.]

Assuming your circa September visit works out, then seeing these items in person will be the best way to acquire the information you need ………   I do know that commissioning Kew Archive employees to work for you can be costly.
Sorry, but what is PG?
A few years back ;-) I worked in WC2 - part of which is in Holborn - interesting part of town.

[LinzC]

Sorry, PG = Pottery Gazette 

I looked at the relevant costs for getting the research done and posted to me, if I understood the terms correctly, it was £16 for them to take a look so they could get back to you with details of the documents, then you had to say which pages you wanted, and were charged per page.  I figured it would be cheaper to travel down myself and do several things at once! 

I thought Holborn Glassworks was going to be London based as well, but the '22 Pottery Gazette Directory gives an address in King Street, South Shields.  As Edward Moores glass works were based on West Holborn in South Shields, I thought it quite interesting. 

[Paul S.]

thanks re pg.

Regarding the two Board of Trade references you've posted Lindsey, I can of course look at these and take some photos - and email them to you - if that might save you the long and tedious trip to west London.             Think I did something similar for Anne (Mod.) some year or two back) re a Czech. company.
However, if you're intent on making the trip south - to include other matters -  then will ignore.

Let me know some time.

[LinzC]

Thank you for the offer Paul.  I will bear that in mind, just in case things don't go to plan.