Topic: Surface decorated crackle type glass not Monart poss Loetz Kralik

[fatbelly]

Hello.
Does anyone have any ideas on this piece.Just purchased as it intrigued me.
The surface is crackled with deeper crackle to the top smoothing nearer to the base.
White cased interior.
Measures just over 7.5” with max width just under 5”.
Wear to base but no discernible pontil.
Looks Monart like from a distance but isn’t.
Poss Czech....European.
Any input greatly appreciated
FB

[glassobsessed]

Why do you discount Monart? Looks good to me at first glance...

It would be shape C, sizes are not always exact: https://www.ysartglass.com/Moncat/Page01.htm

John

[fatbelly]

Hi John
Thanks for the reply.
I really didn’t think it would be because of no outer ring and polished prunt.
That said I have not held a piece of Monart surface decorated before.I have had a dozens of nice pieces of Monart but never surface decorated.This may be the first then.
Would it not have the outer ring and polished pontil prunt?
FB

[glassobsessed]

That would be my only reservation but the outer polished ring you mention is often not present, it would not have been added when it was not necessary.

Likewise I have not handled much if any Monart Cloisonné so don't know if the lack of button is significant or not in this case. See what others have to say.

[chopin-liszt]

It just looks to me as if the base ended up too thin for putting a button on.
I do suspect it is Monart.
None of the other things that might resemble it are quite as "Monart-y" as this is - it's the use of the speckled colours in combination with way the crackle is executed that tell me it's right.

[Greg.]

Given how the base is finished and the overall sheen,  I wondered if it may have been related to the vase discussed in the below thread. Unfortunately no picture for comparison...

https://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,11333.0.html

[fatbelly]

Thanks to you all.
It’s all good to have knowledgable people share their thoughts.
The Monart collectors will def have a strong opinion so maybe they can shed more light on it.
I will continue searching and see what comes up.It only arrived this morning but I have been researching for a week since I first spotted it before bidding.
Again many thanks.
FB

[chopin-liszt]

Well spotted and remembered Greg!
I can't say I remember reading that, and I did not know there were other "Cloissonne" lookalikes.
I knew of the combed bits with mica and the celophane stuff.

And your comment about excessive shininess rings absolutely true to me. Cloissonne normally has a dull iridesence.
But it's a good Monarty shape.  I'm confused. 

[fatbelly]

It’s not as shiny in the hand as the images suggest.The strip lights give it that hue it’s more dull when you look at it in natural light.
Could the piece be Vasart?
FB

[fatbelly]

I have shown this piece to a Monart collector and they feel it is right.
To be honest I’m still not so sure but will wait until one of the Monart Gary’s come on and see what they say as they are normally right.
If not it will just go on the shelf as a maybe something maybe not.
FB