Topic: Surface decorated crackle type glass not Monart poss Loetz Kralik

[flying free]

oh Chic Young had occurred to me but I couldn't find anything on searching.
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[fatbelly]

So not Monart or European but most prob Scottish in origin.
Ok so I think I will wipe the black board clean and start again looking more modern.
Thanks for all the help it’s been good to have a piece worthy of discussion
FB.

[Frank]

European is still an option. I think caithness is also a borderline possibility.

[fatbelly]

Would Caithness not be in a catalogue of their wares.Also would Strathearn not have blown the same way as Monart with a rod etc.
I think I’ll stick it in a box for later and come back to it.If it’s made by one of the above bar the European option more will surface with more info.
Thanks again
FB

[Frank]

Not yet got ALL the catalogues on SG. But trial pieces would not be in catalogue... and all of their samples were sold at one point.

[chopin-liszt]

Would Caithness not have been a lot stricter about quality control, even on a trial piece?
I don't think England should be ruled out.
The most non-Monarty thing about it, to me, is simply the garish colour combination. It's just far too much "in your face" with the contrast between the colours and the white background.
Monart tends to be subtle.

[orangeglass]

Hi,

I came across this on an auction site and it reminded me of the vase under discussion - i have no idea if the title is accurate -"Alexander Jenkinson, the Edinburgh and Leith Flint Glass Works" - also "Scottish Venetian" ?? what! But it may be worth a bit of investigation.

https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/auction-catalogues/opusauctions/catalogue-id-opus-a10060/lot-fbe2d79f-78b5-4e05-9b16-aae101264f49

good luck,
Roberta

[flying free]

Thanks for the link Roberta.  Interesting to look into a bit more from my perspective anyway

I just have to reiterate that it really annoys me these sales photos don't include a photograph of the base. What are they hiding?  It's a complete pain they don't do this.  They wouldn't hide a photo of a base of porcelain or china or whatever.

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[fatbelly]

Hi again.
The colour palette looks right even if the surface finish is different.The white interior is also right.
I will have a look too to see if anything can be found.
FB

[KevinH]

The vase at Barnabys auction was "passed" on a previous sale. But a photo of the base was provided (2nd image): https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-us/auction-catalogues/opusauctions/catalogue-id-opus-a10057/lot-af30ae44-1b97-4204-888a-aacd0148b0a3

Maybe the first two images from that link were taken in different lighting conditions? But it seems to be the same vase as in the bright images.

And while I am here, it might be worth a mention that another "E&L" vase is shown in the archives of the National Museum of Scotland - and dated as "late 19th - early 20th century". Hmm, who will be first to suggest that Salvador Ysart gained his inspirations from Edinburgh & Leith? (Or is it already suggested and I have just missed the info?)