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Author Topic: Hope someone can resolve this knobbly ashtray problem for me  (Read 965 times)

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Offline seanduxbury

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Hope someone can resolve this knobbly ashtray problem for me
« on: October 12, 2019, 02:57:07 PM »
Hi All.  Hope someone can help.  I've been researching this knobbly ashtray for some months now with little success until I had a look at Emmi Smith's great Whitefriars blog (http://whitefriarsknobblies.blogspot.com/).  On the knobbly range section towards the bottom she has an image of a blue dish / ashtray which she says has been put on ebay several times as a Whitefriars dish but has been identified as a Czech dish and more importantly says it  also comes in an shade of purple that is similar to Whitefriars Aubergine which this one is. 

I've since found a thread on this board from back in 2011 (https://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,38645.msg213673.html#msg213673) that has a similar bowl/ashtray to this one which points towards Chribska.  Since then I've found a similar one claimed to be Murano (on etsy in green).  Unfortunately no labels on any one of them to help.  So I'm hoping that someone might be able to clear up the mystery on this little piece.  Measures about 11 cm in diameter and is about 6 cm tall and weighs 560 gms.  It also has a ground out polished pontil (maybe this is where the Whitefriars claims are coming from but regarding it as a Czech piece I've not seen any with a similar pontil).

I've also started to search along Japanese lines but information on Japanese glass is scant to say the least.

So if anyone can help it would be really helpful.

Thanks

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Offline chopin-liszt

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Re: Hope someone can resolve this knobbly ashtray problem for me
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2019, 03:10:18 PM »
All I can add about knobblies is that the wfs ones were knobbled with an S-shaped tool and the sort of twisted shape that makes the knobbled bits is quite obvious.  :)
This isn't wfs.  :)
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Re: Hope someone can resolve this knobbly ashtray problem for me
« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2019, 03:22:16 PM »
Yes I'm also sure it isn't Whitefriars.  It was only when I searched for Whitefriar wannabe's I came across Emmi's blog

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Re: Hope someone can resolve this knobbly ashtray problem for me
« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2019, 03:33:58 PM »
I don‘t have any knowledge about WF, but I knew a little bit about Czech glass. I think it comes from there, it reminds me to works from Miroslav Klinger. The glass from the 60th 70th of the Czecheslowakia is very often fading in the colors and has this organic forms, no hard cutted Rims, soft like  like yours

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/746893919436395462/

Another name that may even fit better is Josef Hospodka, working for union Sklo as well

https://afterglowretro.com/2011/05/02/sklo-union-chribska-glassworks-sommerso-bowls-by-josef-hospodka-in-pink-and-purple-circa-1970s/

I hope this will help a little bit  :)
Monika

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Re: Hope someone can resolve this knobbly ashtray problem for me
« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2019, 08:43:12 AM »
It definitely looks like Chribska to me.

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Re: Hope someone can resolve this knobbly ashtray problem for me
« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2019, 09:48:24 PM »
Skrdlovice?

Maybe Jan Beranek?  (I don't know how secure that attribution is on this link but might be worth investigating further?)

https://www.sbazar.cz/broda.marie/detail/82999037-popelnik-skrdlovice-jan-beranek

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Re: Hope someone can resolve this knobbly ashtray problem for me
« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2019, 05:53:39 PM »
Skrdlovice?

Maybe Jan Beranek?  (I don't know how secure that attribution is on this link but might be worth investigating further?)

https://www.sbazar.cz/broda.marie/detail/82999037-popelnik-skrdlovice-jan-beranek

The same item is shown here : https://www.etsy.com/uk/listing/150615814/skrdlovice-jan-beranek-5953-mid-century?show_sold_out_detail=1

It has 4 indents and a flat bottom. The OP's glass has 3 indents and a hollow ground bottom. The sizes, weights and overall shapes of the two pieces are different.
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Re: Hope someone can resolve this knobbly ashtray problem for me
« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2019, 06:13:29 PM »
Maybe they came in different sizes ?

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