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Offline Ayesha1938

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Re: Murano Cranberry Vase
« Reply #10 on: December 14, 2019, 02:41:46 PM »
Thanks for your reply. Yes, I know I erred in the Pontil area...when I typed it in the first time it change to Pontiff and so I repeated it.

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Re: Murano Cranberry Vase
« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2019, 02:45:25 PM »

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Re: Murano Cranberry Vase
« Reply #12 on: December 14, 2019, 08:20:54 PM »
The part about the pontil mark is wrong. 90% of Murano pontil marks are polished away to leave a smooth and shiny surface. The grinding is never matte. The exceptions to a totally smooth and shiny finish occur when the item has a raised foot, in which case there is no need to remove the pontil mark or when the rod has broken off too deeply; in this case, there will be a smooth shiny mark surrounding a small scar because getting rid of it all would damage the item.

On your vase, the pontil rod has broken away quite deeply BUT the grinding is matte and not of Murano quality. This is common on studio items when they neither have the time nor the resources for fine finishing or on Chinese items which are mostly produced as quickly and cheaply as possible

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Re: Murano Cranberry Vase
« Reply #13 on: December 14, 2019, 10:39:41 PM »
Hi,

Thanks very much for the follow-up response.

What I appreciate most about posting on the Glass Message Board is when find my guesses about a particular piece are incorrect and I learn something new for future references.

I'm inclined to believe it is not Italian made. The scar break off point of the cut is shiny itself but it looks like a bad cut...and the bottom is not matte rather it has a soft lustered finish like satin. The vase is old and the bottom is quite worn. The heavy glass now seems a bit clunky, rather than durable.

My "I found a Murano vase" excitement has completely worn off. Still a lovely color, has a "interesting" form...will be here to remind me of what to look for (and what not to purchase) in future trips to estate sale, thrift shop, and consignment stores.

Again, I do appreciate your reply.

Best regards,

Carole


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Re: Murano Cranberry Vase
« Reply #14 on: December 14, 2019, 11:27:47 PM »
It isn't easy, Carole......but it is fun!  It's not helped that there are sites like the one below, which list items as Murano - there are four different coloured, smaller versions of yours if you scroll down - but do not give any information supporting the attribution. 

http://www.americanchateau.com/content/SPG/Murano-Glass-Vases.html

At least this one, which is an 8" version and has the same base as yours, is described as "Murano style".  There are lots of good pictures on the link, which might be helpful for comparison.

https://www.liveauctioneers.com/en-gb/item/73305012_a-vintage-italian-murano-style-apple-green-bubble-glass

Unfortunately, wear marks are not always the best indicator of age.  Older pieces do not always have them - cabinet, or low use pieces, for example - and it has been known for signs of wear to be "enhanced".

That said, it's still a pretty piece and a good size at 11".  If you only buy things you like, you can't go wrong!

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Re: Murano Cranberry Vase
« Reply #15 on: December 15, 2019, 01:33:57 AM »
It's been awhile since I'd used Glass Message Board. So glad I got stumped (though that has happened frequently, dah.. ;D) and remembered the website. Yes, it's fun....and sooooo educational and rewarding.

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Re: Murano Cranberry Vase
« Reply #16 on: December 15, 2019, 07:44:17 AM »
Couple more possible mmakes.  Rossi Glass in Canada made nice items in colour close to this.  The other possible is Japan who are often mistaken for Murano.  Typically the have a groundout pontil mark (usually polished, however).

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Re: Murano Cranberry Vase
« Reply #17 on: December 15, 2019, 11:27:25 PM »
Thanks! I appreciate your taking the time to share the information. Will definitely check into possibilities.

Kind regards,

Carole

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