Topic: Is this a Monart Vase Shape JB far as i have got??? c 1920's??

[LEGSY]

Purchased today as i thought Monart as i had one
in a similar color years ago but that was just a small plate
however the coloring was the same and the base was with a
raised glass knob of  glass and a slight circle near the edge of the
base which was flat. Would anybody know the color code please?
Also i only realized after purchasing it sadly it has an annealing
crack on the foot which is a mega downer as it was not mentioned
in the shop but i guess i should have looked better Is the vase now
worthless financially or not and it is strange that it still rings well when
it is flicked as it has this crack (pic4) ???Thank you Dan :~)

[Paul S.]

Hi - ordinarily I wouldn't comment on such material since my knowledge of Scottish glass could be written on the back of a rather small postage stamp, but …………….
just for the sake of helping, possibly, can tell you that in the second part of the sale of the Michael Parkington collection, disposed of thru Christie's back in 1998, this oversized egg-cup shape in some sort of dusky blueish shade, and with masses of irregular large bubbles  -  was catalogued as a 'Monart Coupe' shape JB.           
Unfortunately, the catalogue description omitted any reference to a colour code, but does indicate height at 22 cms  -  it also appears to avoid any indication of age.

If the damage wasn't mentioned by the seller, then perhaps best to get a refund  -  would imagine that from a collectors point of view, and unless of mega rarity, then this one will have little commercial value.

anyway hope the above tit-bits of info of some use.

[chopin-liszt]

Annealing cracks are unfortunately quite common in Monart. It does affect the value, but does not render something valueless. Their annealling ovens were in draughty old wooden sheds in a cold climate - controlling the temperature was very difficult, and cracks appeared either at the time or later on, spontaneously.
This is a very unusual shape to find - the only one I know of is in Perth Museum and it contains uranium. (Have you tested for that in this?)
I would imagine the purists might avoid something with a crack, but when it is a very unusual shape, as this is, it should still have a decent value. It might be somebody's only ever chance to own the shape.
It seems to have a lot of different colours in it too. I'd happily give it a home - especially at an annealing crack price. 

I've added my pics of the one in the Museum. Michael is refusing to co-operate with my plans to steal it.

[LEGSY]

That's lovely i also have very little and sometimes struggle to fill
Stamps etc with it I reckon it's due to lack of decent books but
my Dad always says you have to know where to draw the line with them
yet i always seem to find new avenues to collect into once i purchase a new
good book....Sounds like if its a rare shape i should probably hold onto it
and not go back for my money  although it was not much...
Sue i have just checked it has no reaction with A black light at all and your
right it has a load of colors going on inside it iv'e just gone and put it in me
front room instead of in a box in me bedroom lol Thanks for great help and info
Love this site only one where people seem to have the same facination with glass
as i do

[LEGSY]

The museum vase is amazing it could be MdIna or WMF at
a quick glance i love it 

[chopin-liszt]

At the Edinburgh conference, Nigel gave a great talk on how Ysart glass can be considered to be a forerunner of Studio glass.
The only thing that stops it being that is the date of the start of Studio being defined as the Toledo Lecture on 23rd March 1963.
The Ysarts were very advanced in their ideas. 
I do love your goblet/ chalice /coupe/ whatever. I'd be keeping it in pride of place if it were mine.

[LEGSY]

Thanks Sue
I was wondering on Ysarts glass website it mentioned
other sizes i assumed there would be many pieces similar
don't mean to quote you it just appears to be rarer than i expected
it was funny how things that are rare can make you feel but i do
enjoy it already guess just been a bit lucky

[Paul S.]

just for interest on this piece, how does the height compare with the Parkington example of 22 cms.?

[LEGSY]

just 19 cm over here.

[Paul S.]

thanks