Topic: Saint Louis pink clematis?

[marc]

Hi,
 
Could anyone help me with this weight id.
I think the design is an antique Saint Louis pink clematis, it has a polished concave base with a external worn ring. D 6,5 cm. H 4,7 cm   
Many thanks.

Marc.

[chopin-liszt]

Hi Marc,  As you know, I know nothing about weights... but could you post a pic of the side profile, please?
I have a funny feeling the shape of the dome and the hight in relation to the width might be relevant for ids of these rather top-end old ones.

[marc]

Hi Sue.

Here you have the pictures.

Best regards.
Marc.

[chopin-liszt]

That is exactly the profile I wanted, thanks. It doesn't help me,  but it should help those who do know.
I can now see that the flower kind of floats a bit above the lattice, where the latttice is, where the flower is and the whole shape of the dome.  I do think that can be important.

(I suspect I can see some age-related scratches around too... But rather expected on very old.)

[KevinH]

Central cane - 14 ribs - a good pointer for Saint Louis. 

[tropdevin]

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I agree - Saint-Louis.

Alan

[marc]

Many thanks for your replies.

Marc.

[catshome]

Maybe a dahlia rather than clematis

https://www.cmog.org/artwork/paperweight-dahlia?search=collection%3A2f02531e18c0e14f10fb8f266872f6b2&page=730

[KevinH]

The convention (at least, among collectors) is:
- two layers of petals = clematis
- three or more layers of petals = dahlia