Topic: Is this vase Murano

[CollectoMundi]

You'd love our fleamarkets - Belgium's the perfect conversion ground for all the big European glass factories and I've litterally found every major brand here - but it's these mystery pieces that really get me curious 

[chopin-liszt]

I know I would.
But I'd be hoping to encounter a mysteriously unrecognised piece by Maurice Marinot. 

[glassobsessed]

Another photo please! This time I am curious about the outer layer, can we have a closer look?

Is it my imagination or can I see a ring of wear around the base?

[chopin-liszt]

You can add up to 4 pics per post. Just click on the bit under the usual box which says "more attachments" and another box will pop up for you. 

[CollectoMundi]

Hi there - yes there is where to the bottom yet you cannot rub the gold foil off the surface of the vase (I know trust me.. it took me 3 hours to get the thing clean)

As attachment a more detailed pic of the outer layer.

[chopin-liszt]

A soak in lukewarm, diluted, biological laundry liquid, in a bowl with a towel in the bottom (to prevent crashes), followed by use of a soft toothbrush might have saved you three hours of hard labour. 
John would really like to see the ring of wear, if you can manage to bring it up - maybe talcum powder?

[CollectoMundi]

Ever since then I have found my magical solution to clean antique glass: "elbow grease" (not to be used on anything painted)

as attachment a detail of the wear of the base and two more to show how the vase changes when held up to the light.

The blue fades and becomes ruby again in the light.

[glassobsessed]

Thank you. This is a tricky bit of glass! The shape does remind me of many Nouveau examples, indulge me here.... Imagine it did not have an opalescent interior, what would we think then? I would say it looks very much like a bit of Loetz. What if the interior was not intended to be opalescent but was a result of a mistake in manufacture?

Just throwing some ideas around...

[CollectoMundi]

I absolutely agree - I went down the exact same path in the beginning and ended up discarding it because of the gold inclusions ... This thing has been annoying me for 4 years now 

[ahremck]

A very interesting beast.  I would prefer Czech to Murano as an origin.  Most crackled glass with such heavy cracks thet I have seen was Czech.  Strangely, I have a blue over white crackle that I know was made here in Australia in a lighting factory over 40 years ago. 

You would expect the red to dominate the blue as you get nearer the base if the blue was getting thinner in the blowing process to create the crackle effect.   I know of a Jindrich Parik who has an encyclopaedic knowledge of Czech glass.   He might be kind enough to either tell you or point you in a good direction if it is indeed Czech.  You can find him at https://www.cs-sklo.cz/ Which is a site on Czech glass.

Ross