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Walther Prismen Uranium Glass Trinket Set with Original Labels
Jayne:
Some examples to show here of Walther Prismen Trinket Sets with Rectangular Trays in various colours. The tray is shown in the 1931 and 1933 catalogues.
I have shown them in the original second hand form I purchased in, not adding any extras to try and complete the sets, for the purpose of trying to establish which pots, candlesticks and ring holders are Walther Prismen and which are Libochovice 1700. Of course the sets could have still been purchased as a marriage but we can consider averages and likelihoods.
1931 Catalogue https://www.glas-musterbuch.de/Walther-1931.116+B6YmFja1BJRD0xMTYmcHJvZHVjdElEPTUxODMmcGlkX3Byb2R1Y3Q9MTE2JmRldGFpbD0_.0.html
1933 Catalogue https://www.glas-musterbuch.de/Walther-1933.34+B6YmFja1BJRD0zNCZwcm9kdWN0SUQ9MTM0MSZwaWRfcHJvZHVjdD0zNCZkZXRhaWw9.0.html
NevB:
The trays all look to be the early Prismen pattern, the pots and ring holders might be a later version, the candlesticks don't look right as they appear to be tapered not straight like Prismen and L1700, although the base decoration looks right. Looking at the 1933 catalogue I think the design would soon have been considered "old fashioned" and been updated but it's odd that the only mention of the Prismen pattern in the 1937 catalogue is the 8-sided tray.
Jayne:
I believe this is an original Walther Prismen Oval Tray as shown in the 1931 and 1933 catalogues.
https://www.glas-musterbuch.de/Walther-1931.116+B6YmFja1BJRD0xMTYmcHJvZHVjdElEPTUxNTImcGlkX3Byb2R1Y3Q9MTE2JmRldGFpbD0_.0.html
https://www.glas-musterbuch.de/Walther-1933.34+B6YmFja1BJRD0zNCZwcm9kdWN0SUQ9MTM2NCZwaWRfcHJvZHVjdD0zNCZkZXRhaWw9.0.html
I posted a thread recently showing "AWS (August Walther & Sohne) Dresden Glass Foreign" labels on a Green Uranium Walther Prismen trinket set, and will add comparison photos of the same tray from that set in clear and also a possible Libochovice 1700 Tray contender in my second post here.
https://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,69719.0.html
As previously mentioned, due to the roughness and sharpness of the saw edge of the original Walther Prismen Tray, it seems possible the design was changed to something more practical and tactile for the dressing table where hands would be moving back and forth over the tray on a regular basis.
Jayne:
Here are comparisons of the original Walther Prismen tray, a clear version of the labelled Walther Prismen tray and a possible contender for a Libochovice 1700 tray. The sizes are all almost exactly the same, any notable size difference in the photos is just due to the angle the photo was taken from, and position of the trays on the table.
Jayne:
--- Quote from: NevB on July 11, 2020, 10:19:22 AM ---The trays all look to be the early Prismen pattern, the pots and ring holders might be a later version, the candlesticks don't look right as they appear to be tapered not straight like Prismen and L1700, although the base decoration looks right. Looking at the 1933 catalogue I think the design would soon have been considered "old fashioned" and been updated but it's odd that the only mention of the Prismen pattern in the 1937 catalogue is the 8-sided tray.
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Hi NevB, actually this excercise has pointed out the tendency for that type of candlestick to be with this tray set, especially in clear colours which is interesting, in fact I don't recall seeing that type of candlestick in satin/frosted. It's worth noting the base pattern of that particular candlestick appears to match the base pattern of the pots, a slightly floral double sunburst style. (I'm sure there are better ways of describing it).
From past members posts, it seems catalogues don't always feature every single piece for sale just a selection, although your point regarding the 1937 catalogue is noted.
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