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Author Topic: Mid 19th century opaline vase with ruffled rim & blue pineapple knop?  (Read 2840 times)

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Re: Mid 19th century opaline vase with ruffled rim & blue pineapple knop?
« Reply #50 on: April 19, 2024, 09:50:01 PM »
You're welcome.

I'm a bit curious though that some of the comments might be 'politically' inspired perhaps?
I mean if someone from Boston (or any glassmaker) wanted to copy French glass, surely they could have bought the items in the States.  That said, perhaps the whole range wasn't easily obtainable or available there and so the opportunity to buy up the range direct from source was too good to miss maybe?

Either way , it's an interesting report direct from the horse's mouth at the time.

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Re: Mid 19th century opaline vase with ruffled rim & blue pineapple knop?
« Reply #51 on: April 20, 2024, 04:43:51 AM »
And that’s why the Brits used the registered design lozenge to curb copying around this time. I’m not sure if the French or Americans ever used a similar idea. Apart from trademarks or names?

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Re: Mid 19th century opaline vase with ruffled rim & blue pineapple knop?
« Reply #52 on: April 20, 2024, 09:05:45 PM »
They did register patents but I don't know about designs.

Baccarat was marked from ? maybe late 19th?
Saint-Louis is marked as well.

I remember a thread on here years ago where Bernard commented on it.  The fact that glass factories didn't mark their items and how astonishing it was that someone would produce some fabulous art glass vase and it would then go out without makers mark on. By comparison to pottery/china and silver it is actually quite shocking.

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Re: Mid 19th century opaline vase with ruffled rim & blue pineapple knop?
« Reply #53 on: April 20, 2024, 09:19:42 PM »
also I think from reading the reports,that it seems unlikely there would have been much American glass over here in the UK in that late 19th century period.
The report seems to ask how they can increase their exports to the various countries and the answer seems to be ... produce the products people want in that country,  produce them on time, ship them on time and with packing rates that are comparable to competitors in Europe and have sales people over in the countries to sell the items. 
The few I've read don't seem to indicate there are any insurmountable trade barriers in comparison to other countries so trade agreements/import tax doesn't seem to be the problem.  It does appear that they were trying to find a way of increasing their trade with European countries.

Therefore, along with the design indicators, I'd say the opaline vases in this thread are more likely to be French than American?

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