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Author Topic: Pink Satin Cased Glass Vase Identification - Stevens and Williams?  (Read 1676 times)

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Hello my dear experts,

Another glass vase just purchased for £8. My research points me to Stevens and Williams 1890's am I correct in my findings?

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Cased Glass Pink Satin Finish with "swag" design on main body then the pink gets darker as it moves up to the neck. The neck rim is pinched and has a ruffled top. Hand blown snapped off pontil mark. The vase measuring about 6 inches (15cm) high x 3 1/2 inches (9cm) diameter widest point.

I am learning about glass by the day - particularly from the Glass Message Board site. Have I got all the terminology correct? Such as Satin Finish, Swag Design/Pattern, Ruffled Top, Pinched Rim, Snapped off Pontil mark etc.

Thank you so much in advance for any pointers and confirmation of maker and date.

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Re: Pink Satin Cased Glass Vase Identification - Stevens and Williams?
« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2020, 05:32:25 PM »
P.S. Sorry forgot to ask - is the terminology Cased Milk Glass ?   Thanks Glass Amore (Gary)

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Re: Pink Satin Cased Glass Vase Identification - Stevens and Williams?
« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2020, 06:00:31 PM »
Also, just put Vase under UV torch as is glows green slightly in the white glass suggesting the presence of uranium but does not glow like true uranium glass ie vivid bright green. i've attached another picture.

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Re: Pink Satin Cased Glass Vase Identification - Stevens and Williams?
« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2020, 06:33:12 PM »
I think you have all your terminology perfect. ;D
I'm not quite so sure about "cased milk glass". Milk glass is opaque white, but I can't tell from the pics if that is what it is, cased.
Your green glow comes from the manganese decolourant used in the metal.
The way to tell the difference between a manganese dull glow and real uranium brightness is to take your UV source away from the item. Uranium will still glow when your source is 6 feet away, manganese is a lot duller and the glow will fade to nothing long before you reach that sort of distance.
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Re: Pink Satin Cased Glass Vase Identification - Stevens and Williams?
« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2020, 07:06:24 PM »
I've found that with these opaque cased glass pieces you often get a much stronger UV reaction if you shine your torch inside. This may be due to the opacity or composition of the outer glass. Having said that I would have expected the white inner glass of your vase to glow much more brightly than it does in your photo if it contained uranium.
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Re: Pink Satin Cased Glass Vase Identification - Stevens and Williams?
« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2020, 07:57:10 PM »
It's difficult to tell from your photographs as they don't enlarge well enough however it looks as though it might be airtrap.  I think it looks as though it has a polished pontil mark?  Is it snapped off and rough/sharp or has it been polished into a circle?

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Re: Pink Satin Cased Glass Vase Identification - Stevens and Williams?
« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2020, 10:21:33 PM »
Thank you Flying Free your prompt mail. The pontil is polished out and slightly rough around it but not sharp. I have attached higher res images.
The last image is a new shot of the pontil.
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Re: Pink Satin Cased Glass Vase Identification - Stevens and Williams?
« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2020, 10:35:18 PM »
I don't know but possibly Harrach?  I have one that I've seen attributed to 'Riedel if I remember correctly, although mine has a cut rim.

This one the owner says has a polished pontil mark and also has the Harrach mark on the pontil.  It's also graduated colour but a different design and in green:
https://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/156166-harrach-atlas-glass-vase-circa-1885?in=user

Hopefully someone will be along who knows more about these vases and can help you further :)

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Re: Pink Satin Cased Glass Vase Identification - Stevens and Williams?
« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2020, 10:52:14 PM »
Thank you NevB and Chopin-Lizst

Yes not Uranium Glass as you said must be the manganese in the glass ( as I am reading I am learning ) The "Milk Glass" is opaque and matt in appearance. I think it is cased glass as I can see clear outer glass when I look at the base. Attached two more pics.

Could it be from the 1890's and a Stevens and Williams? 

Thanks

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Re: Pink Satin Cased Glass Vase Identification - Stevens and Williams?
« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2020, 10:55:36 PM »
Hi, I posted just before you did so you may have missed it :)  with a link to a Harrach vase in the post so you can compare.  Harrach are a Bohemian maker.

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