No-one likes general adverts, and ours hadn't been updated for ages, so we're having a clear-out and a change round to make the new ones useful to you. These new adverts bring in a small amount to help pay for the board and keep it free for you to use, so please do use them whenever you can, Let our links help you find great books on glass or a new piece for your collection. Thank you for supporting the Board.

Author Topic: Opaline Enamelled Glass Vase With Monmartre Writing  (Read 900 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Roobarb

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 249
    • All Glass
    • United Kingdom
Opaline Enamelled Glass Vase With Monmartre Writing
« on: May 11, 2021, 11:22:55 AM »
Hello, I wondered if anyone knew anything about this piece? It has writing on it which finishes with "from Monmartre" but unsure of the rest. Assume therefore it's French but any other info would be great. The sticker which I assume is from an antique store it was once in says it's c1900-1910 :)

Support the Glass Message Board by finding a book via book-seek.com


Offline NevB

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 1843
  • Gender: Male
    • uranium glass
    • England
Re: Opaline Enamelled Glass Vase With Monmartre Writing
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2021, 01:47:00 PM »
There is some confusion between opalescent glass which is translucent like yours and opaline glass which is opaque. I may be wrong but from the gilding and the smoothed pontil I think it is Bohemian, possibly Harrach? What the abbreviated writing means I can't work out, possibly it's some sort of personalisation for identification purposes. The date looks about right.
"I hear you're a racist now father!" Father Ted.

Support the Glass Message Board by finding glass through glass-seek.com


Offline NevB

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 1843
  • Gender: Male
    • uranium glass
    • England
Re: Opaline Enamelled Glass Vase With Monmartre Writing
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2021, 01:59:40 PM »
The writing could be short for " Souvenir du Sacre Coeur de Montmartre" a souvenir of the Sacred Heart Basilica.
"I hear you're a racist now father!" Father Ted.

Support the Glass Message Board by finding a book via book-seek.com


Offline Roobarb

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 249
    • All Glass
    • United Kingdom
Re: Opaline Enamelled Glass Vase With Monmartre Writing
« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2021, 02:04:55 PM »
Hi NevB, I'm so confused about opaline glass  :D I've Googled it I don't know how many times but still get a bit confused - especially because the label on this said opaline. I did think this was opalescent from what I'd read - because it's translucent but then the label threw me all over again  :D Thank you for confirming! Thanks for your replies, I'll look into Harrach and the souvenir possibility!

Support the Glass Message Board by finding glass through glass-seek.com


Offline NevB

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 1843
  • Gender: Male
    • uranium glass
    • England
Re: Opaline Enamelled Glass Vase With Monmartre Writing
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2021, 02:19:31 PM »
Yes if you Google opaline glass you mostly get images of opalescent glass. Here are a couple of photos, the vase is opalescent, the dish opaline.
"I hear you're a racist now father!" Father Ted.

Support the Glass Message Board by finding a book via book-seek.com


Offline Lustrousstone

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 13623
  • Gender: Female
    • Warrington, UK
    • My Gallery
Re: Opaline Enamelled Glass Vase With Monmartre Writing
« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2021, 04:19:48 PM »
Looks Bohemian to me too. Lots of souvenir ware came from there

Support the Glass Message Board by finding glass through glass-seek.com


Offline chopin-liszt

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 14462
    • Scotland, Europe.
Re: Opaline Enamelled Glass Vase With Monmartre Writing
« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2021, 05:41:48 PM »
The difference between opalescent and opaline is that if you hold it up to the light, you will see a "fire" inside opalescent glass; opaline is plain and the same colour all the way through.
Cheers, Sue M. (she/her)

‘For every problem there is a solution: neat, plausible and wrong’. H.L.Mencken

Support the Glass Message Board by finding a book via book-seek.com


Offline flying free

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 12693
    • UK
Re: Opaline Enamelled Glass Vase With Monmartre Writing
« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2021, 05:52:01 PM »

I think this is classed opalescent not opaline glass.

If it was a souvenir from Sacre Couer would it be more likely to have a religious emblem/design on it probably of the church?
But thinking along those lines though, perhaps Sr. du S. C. de Montmartre is a short for Souer du Sacre Couer de Montmartre?
So it may have belonged to the sisters perhaps.  Is that a possible?

I also think it's Bohemian :) The enamelling design, the base yellow enamel and the way it's made cut at the top with no pontil mark.

m




Support the Glass Message Board by finding glass through glass-seek.com


Offline NevB

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 1843
  • Gender: Male
    • uranium glass
    • England
Re: Opaline Enamelled Glass Vase With Monmartre Writing
« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2021, 08:27:06 AM »
flying free, I think it's more likely to be souvenir than soeur, I don't know if nuns would own anything as frivolous as this. I can't find anything similar but perhaps it's a "bootleg" item not an official souvenir.
"I hear you're a racist now father!" Father Ted.

Support the Glass Message Board by finding a book via book-seek.com


Offline Roobarb

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 249
    • All Glass
    • United Kingdom
Re: Opaline Enamelled Glass Vase With Monmartre Writing
« Reply #9 on: May 12, 2021, 04:06:48 PM »
Thank you all for your replies and help with opaline / opalescent  :)

Will keep looking into Bohemian glass for this one...

Support the Glass Message Board by finding glass through glass-seek.com


 

SMF spam blocked by CleanTalk
Visit the Glass Encyclopedia
link to glass encyclopedia
Visit the Online Glass Museum
link to glass museum


This website is provided by Angela Bowey, PO Box 113, Paihia 0247, New Zealand