Topic: WALSH Sunshine Amber Tumblers

[NevB]

Here is the latest addition, slightly smaller at 85mm compared to 93mm. but who cares. Going back to the Walsh mark, Reynolds on P50. of his book has photos of the marks. These are almost in ornate script form with the W being formed by two intersecting V's, very different to the block capital mark on my tumblers. Just a thought but could those marks be the ones from the 464471 registration from 1905 and the later mark is a 1926 re-registration, if that's possible. 

[chopin-liszt]

  Walsh Sunshine Amber is a very pale lemony colour with a soft iridesence.

[Paul S.]

Nev   -   Hi  -  sorry, you've lost me a little, but to be honest, to my eyes the first image showing the word WALSH appears very similar to the book picture where the W is indeed formed of what appears to be two Vs  -  and the W is noticeably taller than the other letters  -  but whatever, you appear to have the earlier mark consisting of a single word.          Regret I'm also a tad confused when you say 'those'  -  there's a need to be very specific when speaking of more than one item  -  otherwise simple souls like me get lost, and I think we need to sort out the anomaly re the dating of the Registration for 464471  -  as to whether it's 1905 or 1926.           There's obviously an error or mis-understanding somewhere and it's tempting to speculate, but will probably only confuse us more.               The apparent fact that Reynolds information shows the Company didn't use any backstamp on their glass prior to c. 1926, suggests strongly that we've got the wrong end of the stick in thinking that 464471 dates to 1905.     Probably about all we can say presently with certainty is that Walsh used two different backstamps  -  the earlier mark shows simply a single word WALSH and the later one includes the word ENGLAND, which was used until the early 1950s.   Pound to a penny however, that there was an overlap in usage, and dare say we'll never know the exact periods of either.      Anyway, you've done v. well.  

Sue - sure, take your word for that - I've never seen the stuff in the flesh 

[chopin-liszt]

In Walsh, it's actually called Sunbeam Amber. This is a large footed bowl Lustrousstone has.
(I have a large optic ribbed bowl but no pics.)
http://lustrousstone.co.uk/cpg/displayimage.php?pid=1131
http://lustrousstone.co.uk/cpg/displayimage.php?pid=1132

[Paul S.]

quote from reply No. 5, re Thomas Webb   ...  " I have a set of six (all marked) of their Sunshine Amber from the Gay Glass range (as per the link)"  ............  not quite correct, unfortunately.
The Thomas Webb Gay Glass range included a uranium/yellow coloured version and was called 'Golden Amber' - not 'Sunshine Amber'   ..............   mind you, with all these Sunshine/Ambers/Sunbeams around, it's not surprising mistakes occur.      No idea as to whether Webb or Walsh were first with this u. coloured effect in tumbler  -  possibly Walsh, but that's a bit of a guess.

[NevB]

Paul, having looked with a magnifying glass at the marks on my goblets one is the same as the photo on P50. and the other is like the one on P40. so it's very confusing. Thanks Sue for the information about Sunbeam Amber.

[Lustrousstone]

To clarify the Walsh yellowy amber uranium names: if it's iridescent, it's Sunbeam. If it's not, I'm not sure what it was.  They also had a much darker uranium amber but not as dark as Stevens and Williams Cairngorm.

[NevB]

Thanks Christine, my tumblers aren't iridescent so I assume they are just "amber".