Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. > France
Cristalleries de Saint-Louis bowl 1908
Paul S.:
you can be honest, we really won't get upset ;D I'm thinking of the process needed to create your half moon surface decoration - can we discount a machine acid etching? - yes?, ..... so, alternatively, we cover the outside with a resist and what - then some guy spends hours with a steel stylus making all of these random half moons? I don't think I'm buying that. Might the method have been a mould pressing?
I know nothing of Continental bowls from the factories you mention - shame the rim isn't Sterling.
flying free:
The rim has lasted 110 plus years and in very good condition so they must have been/be doing something right ;) I don't think it's ever been used. I'm not a fan of gold either but silver would look cheap I think :-X
It's incredibly classy, I would say obviously given it's from Saint-Louis however they and Baccarat made a lot of stuff I don't actually like. It rings like a bell and goes on forever. Nice piece. £14.
I have no idea about the process. It has been discussed before but it seems to have been something that has never been done again I don't think. So however it was being made and whoever was doing it stopped doing it and the method died out with them I presume. It seems to be peculiar to Saint Louis and Baccarat and possibly Val St Lambert. Although I know we discussed whether my lampshade might have been Riedel as well.
It's a bit like the cloudy fluffy coloured glass made by Daum and Muller Freres etc.
Example here:
https://www.glassmessages.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=49289.0;attach=111325;image
I've never seen the technique used by anyone other than French makers n the 20s and 30s or since. I've no idea how they did it but it's beautiful.
Paul S.:
the Richardson vermicular or Vermicelli surface decoration (acid) came to mind, but that was pure surface and lacked any depth at all - I really am tempted to think this one could be a pressing of some sort. Gilded chrome not really my thing - if I can't see the lion passant it goes back to the shop ;) ;)
flying free:
No it's completely different to the Richardson's vermicular. Completely different look, and feel and texture and technique. And more to the point they did this technique with a plain cameo coloured layer over the top as well. So the technique only appears in the areas without the second plain cameo layer design. It's quite something - look at this lampshade as an example:
https://www.glassmessages.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=55375.0;attach=146312;image
It's not gilded chrome ;D It's gold leaf applied on the glass edge.
Paul S.:
I knew I shouldn't have got involved in foreign glass ;) Who has said it's gold leaf - the factory, or does it have rolled gold or gold filled marks?
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