Topic: Help needed with an old lead wine glass from an old glass person please :) ???

[LEGSY]

Recently found a lovely old drinking glass it measures approx 6" in height and has a heavily made
bowl with multi tear base it then has a wide knop underneath with one  larger tear followed by a
small cushion knop? over the foot this also has a small tear inside it followed by possibly
conical or helmet foot? with a wide folded foot and snapped pontil scar on under side. The base rim has
lots of wear so does the bowl rim. The foot rings a lot nicer than the thick bowl not to sure why maybe just
due to the thickness of the glass i would love to know what this glass is known as or the date it maybe from
in your opinions thank you very much its a bit out of my age range of knowledge thanks

[Paul S.]

looks interesting - which is probably a euphemistic way of implying I don't have too much of a clue as to its origins.

In appearance it looks to be a heavy baluster - first quarter of C18 - and a wine as you've suggested, since it's a tad too short to be a goblet, and the foot looks to be 'domed and folded' - as you'll know this heightened sort of foot keeps the sharp pontil scar from scratching any surface on which it stands.              I'd suggest the bowl is a round funnel, but not overly sure, and the teared knop could be an inverted baluster sort, but whatever, it's certainly large.

What mostly seems at odds with something purporting to be a wine, is the thickness of the glass, but then since I've never held a heavy baluster wine from early C18, I can't really make a comparison.   

Unfortunately, seems we don't get the wine glass connoisseurs looking in any more.               Sorry this isn't definitively of any help  -  fingers crossed an expert will come to your rescue  -  but interesting glass.

[LEGSY]

 
Thanks i am well pleased with a response i think that the bowls on these that
had multi-tears remind me of the decanter stoppers from 1740's going to
the thickness of the bowl i think that maybe due to the glass blower and that
the tear's in the bowl need's to have a thicker base to take those but overall whilst the
glass undoubtedly in my opinion is an early one maybe not made at a top flight glass house
as the glass sits a little wonky etc just seems a little less refined compared to some i am
on the other hand  under no illusions as i feel blessed to have come by it and its sitting
pride of place very sad to hear of some of those wine Connoisseurs not dropping in eye
heard recently of Robin at Butlers Antiques passing away very sad to lose these people who
have such wealths of knowledge in these times...Thanks Paul.

[oldglassman]

Hi ,

I think your glass is a continental, central European , Germany possibly , of heavy baluster type and mid 18th century , the bases of bowls on continental heavy baluster examples can feature several tears but UK examples don't ,and the overall shape is not quite right for an English one , it would be interesting to know what it looks like under uv , I think it is more than likely not lead glass.

cheers,

Peter.

[LEGSY]

Thank you for the excellent reply the information is very interesting i managed to test and
yes the glass does have a glow to it under "uv" light, The bowl being multi tear in the bottom
signifies continental super technical knowledge most appreciated what was very unusual when
i read your reply i googled using the continental parameters and was very lucky to get a hit on
a glass that in my eyes is virtually exactly the same as the one i listed here it was part of the
Chicago Art Institute Collection i am trying to work out how to link to it they have labelled it's
baluster as an Early 18th Dutch Baluster Glass. Appreciated 

[oldglassman]

Hi ,
    He is one almost identical glass to yours which has the bonus of an engraved bowl , Germany/Thuringia.

https://www.artic.edu/artworks/36793/goblet

Peter.

[LEGSY]

https://ancientglass.wordpress.com/2017/04/28/english-glass-week-friday/amp/

If this link works please move down the page to a section called "additional examples from museums" and the third i think
is a fairly near possibility too thanks for the reply i love the engraved pieces but they tend to always make more as they
appear fabulous to owners and i cant afford them

[Paul S.]

thanks from me too Peter for helping with this one.