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Offline createdbear

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Cased cylinder vase ID if possible please
« on: April 06, 2022, 06:46:27 PM »
I picked this rather attractive vase up but can't seem to find one on the net. White interior with red outer. Stretched bubbles with white surround to them. The base has a round polished pontil (virtually identical to a Whitefriars base). Height is 8 inches No sig on the base. Any one have any ideas or know  which company made it. Thank you for any help or input.

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Re: Cased cylinder vase ID if possible please
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2022, 07:13:47 PM »
Do the bubbles have a texture on the surface?
I cant make out much detail from your pics, I'm afraid, but it does look a bit like a piece I bought in Amsterdam a good few years ago, by a Danish artist called Tchai Munch.
I have tracked down a (poor) image on the web of a couple of vases that look like the same design as mine.

https://denstoredanske.lex.dk/Tchai_Munch

https://www.lauritz.com/da/auktion/tchai-munch-vase/i2930699/
(My piece is the same decor and colour as this ball vase, but it's a cylinder. The "texture" on the bubbles doesn't show up. There are rings around each bubble, which can be both seen and felt.)

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Re: Cased cylinder vase ID if possible please
« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2022, 07:53:46 PM »
Hi Chopin, thank you for your reply. The bubbles in my vase are under the surface and can't be felt. They are stretched and have a white ring around them but there is definitely no texture The surface of the vase is smooth and polished.

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Re: Cased cylinder vase ID if possible please
« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2022, 08:07:12 PM »
 :'(
Perhaps I was a bit confused given the white ring around. If you enlarge the image of the deep red ball vase, you can see how the bubbles also have rings around them, but with the sunken and raised bits. I do not have a clue how the artist did them.
It also has paler, flame like, pinkish coloured bits inside that show through parts, it's not too far a stretch from your vase, but it's not the same either.
Back to the starting point.  ::)
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Re: Cased cylinder vase ID if possible please
« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2022, 09:54:12 PM »
Interesting item.

Not sure if the white interior is viable here, but Whitefriars did produce some experimental cylinders some of which didn't go into production. An example of one in turquoise can be seen on Nigel Benson's website...
http://www.20thcentury-glass.org.uk/id57.html

A couple of other variations can be seen on page 143 of Lesley Jackson's book, although none exactly fit your piece, there are some similarities in design.

Perhaps a red herring, but might be an avenue to explore.

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Re: Cased cylinder vase ID if possible please
« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2022, 10:19:50 PM »
Greg, thank you. I think you have solved the mystery. The turq vase has the same design as mine...even down to the shaded blobs around the white rings. There are Whitefriars studio vases that have the white interior. The base on mine is so WFriars...that polished circle with that slightly rippled surround. I'll do some more research. Thanks again.

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Re: Cased cylinder vase ID if possible please
« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2022, 10:24:55 PM »
You're welcome. Perhaps try and run it past Nigel Benson if possible.

Do update the post if you find out anything further. Good luck.

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Re: Cased cylinder vase ID if possible please
« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2022, 11:12:32 AM »
I think your vase is only similar and not close enough to say it's Whitefriars. And that pontil mark is not one that can be claimed as Whitefriars: it's just a standard ground and polished pontil mark with base cooling rings caused by placing the vase on the marver

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Re: Cased cylinder vase ID if possible please
« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2022, 01:30:07 PM »
Both those Baxter cylinders are decorated with silver chloride, not coloured enamels.  :)
When the silver molecule dissociates from the chlorine in the heat, chlorine gas is released and the remaining silver reacts with the hot clear metal, creating yellows and ochres.  :)

Not really like createdbear's vase at all.
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Re: Cased cylinder vase ID if possible please
« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2022, 06:02:26 PM »
First thought was Eisch but the vase is not right, it does look to dovetail nicely with the Whitefriars vase to my eye.

Another photo or two might help, hard to see the detail clearly it reflects so well.

John

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