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Author Topic: Maltese (?) moss green cylinder vase  (Read 1465 times)

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Offline chopin-liszt

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Re: Maltese (?) moss green cylinder vase
« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2022, 07:00:24 PM »
The description of dimensions rules out Phonoecian. Not that it was deeply considered.  :)
Their cylinders are often a bit shorter and wider than Mdina.
I've just looked at the two Mtarfa cylinders I showed - one is taller than Mdina, the other is shorter.
And I have a more recent Mtarfa cylinder which is smaller and wider. Dimensions were more consistent at Mdina. It can sometimes help.  ::)

I've not seen the decor in your turned rim ashtray before, or a green base colour. I've learned!
I've got a turned rim ashtray too, but the base metal is clear and the decor is those greenish blobs, while yours is crizzled, and I don't know where the red that appears, appears from, and it's fascinating!
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Re: Maltese (?) moss green cylinder vase
« Reply #11 on: April 10, 2022, 07:03:43 PM »
Thanks for checking, Sue! :)
I will give the exact dimensions once I am at my apartment again.

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Re: Maltese (?) moss green cylinder vase
« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2022, 01:43:44 PM »
Ah, forgot the link to the thread with more pics of the green Mtarfa ashtray: https://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,51602.0.html

It is really green (but I think with a little amethyst interspersed). And crizzled. So still very different to my vase.

Edit: I think this vase is from the same "range": https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/green-glass-mtarfa-vase-1777695274?popular

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Re: Maltese (?) moss green cylinder vase
« Reply #13 on: April 11, 2022, 02:02:08 PM »
 :-[ I didn't know the green in that thread either and I said so! Sorry Michael, I do have memory troubles.
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Re: Maltese (?) moss green cylinder vase
« Reply #14 on: April 11, 2022, 03:46:14 PM »
I wouldn't remember it either if it wasn't my ashtray. :)
That was 9 years ago...

The best thing I learned so far: my green vase is more interesting than I had thought ;)

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Re: Maltese (?) moss green cylinder vase
« Reply #15 on: April 12, 2022, 05:52:04 PM »
Update:
I measured the vase today, it stands 19.5 cm tall (quite similar to some of my Mdina cylinder vases), but is narrower at a diameter of 7.5 cm, slightly tapering towards the top to 7.2 cm.

And while taking some close-up pics I noticed that -- opposite to what I said in my opening post -- there seems to be silver chloride used! At least I am quite positive that the yellow bubbles look like the ones in many Mdina vases.

Whatever that indicates I don't know. Any Scandinavian glassworks known for using silver chloride?

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Re: Maltese (?) moss green cylinder vase
« Reply #16 on: April 12, 2022, 05:59:00 PM »
talking off the top of my head but Malta Decorative Glass just suddenly came to mind.  Is there such a thing? MDG? John, Sue  could it have been that?

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Re: Maltese (?) moss green cylinder vase
« Reply #17 on: April 12, 2022, 06:27:54 PM »
Thanks m! :)
They have a rather distinctive base finish = not perfectly polished but like fine battuto, and their green is a little different (both John and me posted a pic of a MDG piece for comparison on the first page of this thread).
But who knows what they produced in their earliest day...

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Re: Maltese (?) moss green cylinder vase
« Reply #18 on: April 12, 2022, 06:35:32 PM »
I had a little ponder about Alum Bay - mostly because of the colours. But it looks like very thick glass for them. What I really want is to have this cylinder in my sticky mitts and compare it to several others, including Mdina. I've found some pics of a very unusual Mdina cylinder - one I strongly suspect might be Boffo because it has the grid pattern depicted in the silver trails. I have no idea how it was done.
But it does demonstrate that the traditional stuff is not all there was made.

What about the idea of early experimental IoWSG?
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Re: Maltese (?) moss green cylinder vase
« Reply #19 on: April 12, 2022, 07:10:09 PM »
 :-[ that will teach me to read the thread -   It just came to mind so I'm glad it wasn't completely out of kilter with other thoughts then.

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