Topic: trademark indentification???

[Connie]

Hi Lorrie -

I looked for this piece last night in 5 or 6 different books and could not find the pattern.  The shape most closely resembles Imperial Glass puff or powder boxes but I don't recognize the pattern.

[LMK]

Hi,
I tried to scan the mark but that didn't work, so I'm trying something different. Again, I truly appreciated everyones help.

[pamela]

it looks as if the H is closed at top and base?

could it be the chinese character  ri  = sun?

 :?:  :?:  :?

[butchiedog]

Hello again,

I have asked around and posted on the ebay Glass Board too. Some have seen items in the same pattern before, but nobody knows for sure who made them or who the H mark belongs to. Homeco was one suggestion, but they always used their full name as far as I know and Lancaster\Colony\Indiana Glass made most, if not all of their glass items.

Hocking came up again, but everyone who has a book on the subject or just a book on Milk Glass says the item is not covered in their books and there is no mention of Hocking using any mark on their glass, until they merged with Anchor and the Anchor-Hocking mark began being used, but not on everything.

Everyone agrees that it's definitely not Heisey's, not Imperial, Westmoreland, Fenton etc., because those companies did hand made glass and your piece appears to have been machine made, like something Anchor-Hocking, Indiana Glass, Jeannette or one of those makers would have done.

Ignoring the H;  I have a feeling it may possibly be a Hocking item, but maybe an earlier, unknown, undocumented sleeper item and mark or something like that. The reason for my mere speculation is the slightly translucent, less opaque type of white glass used and another detail I have only seen on a Anchor-Hocking milk glass item of a different pattern.



I found a link to a Anchor-Hocking museum and thought maybe you might wish to contact them and see what they can tell you

http://www.anchorhockingmuseum.com/History%20of%20Anchor%20Hocking.html

Wish I had more than that to offer, Mike

[LMK]

Dear Mike,
 I was sold this piece through an antique auction dealer as a hesiey.  I had listed this peice on ebay as what the dealer said, but have since change it because of everyone's information. I decided I didn't want a buyer to feel scammed since no one recognized the peice.
This is a great site and very helpful. I appreciate all your time and effort . I will tell that dealer the next time I see him,  he got his info wrong concerning this peice per the great intelligents of the glass community.
 I will also be more careful the next time.  I realize you can't always trust people even those who are suppose to be knowledgable  in their field of work.  I am sure I paid to much for it too.
Anyway I hope you have a great week and again I thank you and everyone else who help me.
God Bless.
Lorrie      

[butchiedog]

Lorrie,

If it were me I would return it to the antique dealer, who may have just made an honest, uneducated mistake and might give you a refund. If not then you know to avoid shopping there in the future.

Next time you might ask a dealer what their source of reference is when they claim something is something. Those who know for sure what they are selling can easily and happily give you one and those who can't are obviously just guessing or slapping any name on their items to make them seem interesting. Other than that the best thing you can do is avoid buying items you yourself don't know anything about. Get yourself some books on the type of glass you like, from a book store or maybe your local library has some that you can check out.

It's not an easy rule to follow I know, but half of the responsibility in knowing what something is or isn't belongs to the buyer. I don't like to preach at others, but I don't like seeing people being taken even worse. --- Mike

[pamela]

lacking words in English Lorrie but I underwrite what Mike says :oops:

[pamela]

besides, Pamela is still interested in the character of signature H please